Fighters Cycle

Hey All

Thanks for the info on acne, the reason the acne issue is important to me caus im a fighter and the shirt has to come off regularly. This leads me to my next question.

Does anybody have any experiance with gear that promotes oxygen retention in the blood to extend endurance.
I would guess that top athletes are running different compounds for different goals during there contest preps.
I have run two bulking cycles to get into a heaver weight division and am sorted in that respect, my goals have changed though. I need to design a cycle to help increase time spent in front of the bags and on the road. Cardio training is now the most important factor in my prep.
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EQ would be a good choice as it increases red blood cell count. I believe oral tbol was developed specifically for Olympic sprinters, so that would also be a good choice. With good old fashioned testosterone.

I know this thread is not realy the domain of this site as most guys are into BB, but can anyone expand on the above. I was hoping to get an idea of a sample cycle that someone in the game or similar goals has run with success.

Don't know a great deal about the cardiovascular benefits.

But tbol has been touted as a sprinters drug so would imagine there are benfits to it for cardiovascular.
EQ increases red blood cell count quite drastically so would increase oxygen flow to the muscles.
Winny is also supposed to be good for sprinters-Ben Johnson won the '88 Olympic games 100 m sprint setting a world record and beating Carl Lewis and was disqualified for using winny.
But winny is harsh on your joints.

I would guess a low testosterone-400-500mg per week, with EQ at 400-500mg per week and tbol at 50-60 mg per week would be a good cycle for this.

Tbol would only be used for 4 weeks because it is 17 alpha alkylated-so would have to choose whether to frontload or use at the end of the cycle. The cycle would be best at 14 weeks with EQ because of the ester length.

Perhaps Inja could chime in

You probably don't want to carry excess water because that will make you slower. So keep it basic, test prop with Anavar or winny and you can certainly use some Equi but then you'll have to run at least a 12+ week cycle.

As for fighting cycle...

I would look on the line of Wintrol Tbol or even Equi.

Winstrol EOD 50mg week 1-6
Tbol 40mg EOD 1-6


Or
Winstrol EOD 50 week 1-6
Equi week 1 -10/12/14 (depending on cash flow)
Tbol week 6-10/12/14.
Prop week " " " "

But this is just be. Others may change the order around..

Kind stretching the cycle out there.

EOD = inject every 2nd day
ED= everyday

as a fighter i would stay away from anavar and winny cos of the joint pains, now imagine your self caught with an elbow to the shoulder when your joints are dry??? eish no thanks...

eq would be the best bet for endurance,test u can get away with right up to 3-4 weeks from the fight then switch to something like oral turanabol to keep your strength right up there...i would also look at throwing clen and ketofin into your cycle to get your endurance up a bit or even an eca stack....

Although AAS tend to increase RBC counts in general, they tend to lower endurance marginally as well. Lesa is a fighter of sorts and complains of endurance problems.
Agreed with not wanting to use bloating compounds which will slow you, as well as drying compounds that will make you weaker.

Also, sprinters are more like weightlifters, and this is why they test positive for AAS. Cyclers and other endurance athletes usually test positive for drugs like EPO and other forms of blood doping, as well as stimulants to keep them energised like Ephedrine and caffeine.

Some fighters were using cheque drops for aggression once but I don't know if this is still practiced...

I ran Nandro Prop and Test Prop to finish off my last cycle and loved it. It was the shit, sept for the massive pain in my quads.I couldnt move at training.The okes were using me for target practice, let alone sit on the shit house. Can i Expect the same with Equi?
I have heard so many good things about this compound, does it shut you down like deca? and what Pct protocol should i run.
If i ran the above mentioned it would be for as long as possible so 14 or 16 weeks,or is longer possible?

20weeks of equi with test prop would be a winner if your bank balance can handle it,i am on a 15week cycle at the moment and my bank balance is crying...

Jackson wrote:

I ran Nandro Prop and Test Prop to finish off my last cycle and loved it. It was the shit, sept for the massive pain in my quads.I couldnt move at training.The okes were using me for target practice, let alone sit on the shit house. Can i Expect the same with Equi?
I have heard so many good things about this compound, does it shut you down like deca? and what Pct protocol should i run.
If i ran the above mentioned it would be for as long as possible so 14 or 16 weeks,or is longer possible?

EQ is no where near as harsh on natural test as deca.
The pain is coming from the test prop-notoriously painful. You seem to get used to the ester after a bit, but the first time is always harsh. It's to do with the melting point and the crystals crashing out of suspension in the muscle.

I wouldn't go longer than 14-16 weeks-thats a long time to be shut down and you will definitely need to run HCG.

PCT will be the standard nolva for 4 weeks with HCG towards the end of the cycle overlapping slightly to pct, but nolva must be run post hcg.

How about HGH? would it be of any benifit, I feel weight division factors and extended time frames of it's usage is some of its benifits. I have zero experience with growth so might be out of line here. what do you guys think.What about the sides of growth, are there any?

yohimbe i have put guys on 24week cycles where they use equi for the first 10weeks with just equi and hcg and some proviron and then from week 10-20 they add in the test and carry on with the equi and maybe even double the dosage, i feel equi is best after about 8 weeks so running it for that extended period of time with the hcg and no test is a winner, then use the test for 12 weeks at 600mg - 900mg and u got yourself quite a potent power cycle,u can even front load the test with dbol or even better yet oral turanabol... then last 4 weeks of the cycle (week 20-24) u can run winstrol to dry out and harden up...

5iu's of gh eod for a period of 6 months will give u great gains in my opinion...

djeasye wrote:

yohimbe i have put guys on 24week cycles where they use equi for the first 10weeks with just equi and hcg and some proviron and then from week 10-20 they add in the test and carry on with the equi and maybe even double the dosage, i feel equi is best after about 8 weeks so running it for that extended period of time with the hcg and no test is a winner, then use the test for 12 weeks at 600mg - 900mg and u got yourself quite a potent power cycle,u can even front load the test with dbol or even better yet oral turanabol... then last 4 weeks of the cycle (week 20-24) u can run winstrol to dry out and harden up...

That's a long cycle-can't really comment as the longest I've ever gone is 16 weeks and wasn't too happy with my recovery, which is why I opt for shorter cycle now.
I agree that EQ only reaches decent blood levels on standard dose after 6 weeks or so, so needs to be run longer.
How was their recovery after 24 weeks?

fine after 24 weeks cos pct was solid and really the equi wasnt to harsh on them....i had ogre on a cycle from april to the end of october and his recover was fine and he was using a shit load of tren...

My downfall was not using HCG on the longer cycles

well thats why ur recovery wasnt really fast...

djeasye wrote:

well thats why ur recovery wasnt really fast...

Learning curve.

6 months of HGH is going cost a fair penny

yohimbe i just bought 7 nodripens,not a cheap experience...

What kind of fighting are we talking about? The only sport that guys are gearing up heavily right now is in MMA. Boxing is heavily tested just ask Jerrad Levitt who fuked his boxing career with gear. Winny is out of question for you as DJ said you gonna have issues with joints and ligaments and you are bound to have injuries. Tren is also no good as it makes you really unfit. A good test cycle with a good AI in it will shred that water away and give you that edge. EQ is also a good input to your cycle. HGH is the bomb for you though. If you can afford a nice 6 months cycle on gh that would be the best. It would keep you lean fast and build quality muscle.

All steroids increase red blood cells....

Lesa wrote:

What kind of fighting are we talking about? The only sport that guys are gearing up heavily right now is in MMA. Boxing is heavily tested just ask Jerrad Levitt who fuked his boxing career with gear. Winny is out of question for you as DJ said you gonna have issues with joints and ligaments and you are bound to have injuries. Tren is also no good as it makes you really unfit. A good test cycle with a good AI in it will shred that water away and give you that edge. EQ is also a good input to your cycle. HGH is the bomb for you though. If you can afford a nice 6 months cycle on gh that would be the best. It would keep you lean fast and build quality muscle.

Howzit man.
Iv been waiting for your input on this. Thanx for the reply.
Ya Mixed it is. Have you run gh? and did it benefit you?

Oh Ya and by the way. Go Manny, did you see the fight? Had me throwing upper cuts in front of the tube. lol . Definatly gonna be a classic.

As much as i think Pacman is the greatest fighter ever to enter the ring I was very dissapointed by Cotto. But i guess this will lead to the fight we are all waiting for Pacman-Mayweather.

I have used GH but only at 2 IU of Humatrope for like 2 months. I couldnt afford more that stuff can set you back really really bad. To be honest i only saw fat burning effects as i got very lean. But if you can afford a proper cycle of lets say 8 IU ED for like 6 months you will be a machine. Why i say this is unlike gear GH will make everything stronger your joints tendons everything. Stay away from winny tren and clen. Those substances are bad for MMA and any impact sports and lead to injuries quick. A good prop/Cyp/EQ cycle with a good AI will be good for you i reckon. You dont want to bloat so make sure you got letro or adex on hand.