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09 Dec 2009 13:44 #30836 by Logan87
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I'm about to go on a cycle that contains test cypionate @ 500mg per week,deca @ 400mg per week,dianabol @ 30mg a day and arimidex @ 0.5mg a day.Will be doing this for 8 weeks.
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09 Dec 2009 13:50 #30837 by North_Boy1
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Welcome ! What a nice intro. :doh

Tell the forum a bit about yourself i.e. age, years training, number of cycles done, weight, height, %BF, training program, diet, ect. and then maybe someone will reply on your cycle.

If everybody does it, is it still cheating?

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09 Dec 2009 14:08 #30839 by juicy
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hehe ey Nboy lol :laugh:

Logan, just curious, how long you plan on running the dbol?

8 weeks for test and deca is a bit short in my opinion ...

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09 Dec 2009 14:14 #30841 by Logan87
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I'm from pta and ive been training for 6 years on and off.been on two previous cycles and im 22 years old.at the moment im at 88kg 1.83m and 14%
train 5 days a week(3 on 1 off 2 on 1 off)
im very carb sensitive so i stay away from carbs with a high protein intake.water is in at 4l a day without supplements.
thats me in a nutshell

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09 Dec 2009 14:16 #30842 by Logan87
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for about 5 weeks as a kickstarter

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09 Dec 2009 14:17 #30843 by Jayman
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two previous cycles and you're 22? geez

anyway, you're cycle from above needs to be extended, you won't notice much at all after 8 weeks on those compounds

Train harder than the guy next to you and one day, no-one will be able to touch you

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09 Dec 2009 14:27 #30846 by Logan87
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Those cycles only consisted of dianabol the other one was winstrol.was basically experimenting.
if the time is too short to see results, would it be better to do a 10 week cycle?

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09 Dec 2009 14:32 #30847 by juicy
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Yeah, like jayman said, extend your cycle - minimum ten weeks.

12 weeks should work perfect, dont push it more than 14

Id go with 40mg dbol for the first four weeks ED

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09 Dec 2009 14:35 #30848 by Empire
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logan87 your diet needs to be 100% and if u are carb sensitive then higher in protein and fats. your cycle needs some adjustment, run 500mg sust a week 2 shots of monday and thursday(personally still feel it should be shot eod but its your first cycle) and 300mg deca will be 100% for u,dont need 400 for a first cycle. 4weeks of dianabol will be good,30-40mg a day. what brands are u planning on taking i am hoping not nomad. i would like to see your diet as without proper nutrient intake u are just gonna piss your money down the drain.

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09 Dec 2009 14:54 #30849 by Logan87
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all thats available in my neck of the woods is nomad.i read here on the forum and it looks like a product with mixxed reviews

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09 Dec 2009 14:58 #30850 by Empire
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search some more in the woods then dude..

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09 Dec 2009 15:04 #30852 by juicy
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lol

Dude if you wana bang a good cycle, you gotta bang with good product.

10 - 12 weeks is a long time to waste on bad gear as well as a waste of money.

Ive tried rubbish gear and only end up regretting it in the end.

Bad gear + Bad diet = 0 Simple maths lol

Get it sorted out and then prepare for a top cycle.

Just my opinion ;)

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09 Dec 2009 16:40 #30863 by Logan87
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easier to say when the guys shut you out.nobody wants to help me and everybody had the same excuse,age.If i knew somebody with a ligit product,id go all out to get the best on the market.im not afraid of paying for a quality product

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10 Dec 2009 16:38 #30953 by Inja
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The reason everybody has that excuse is because your to f()cking young. Especially for the Dbol and Winnie cycle you ran earlier. But at 22 your an adult, and make your own decisions.

Advice, sort out diet. Test and Dbol is fine for a first cycle. Save the deca for another time.

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Its just my point of view

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10 Dec 2009 17:11 #30961 by Logan87
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i'd just like to know why i'm too young for steroids?i bet half the guys on this site were the same age when they first started out with steroids.if i have the potential to grow, steroids may just amplify that potential.whats so bad with that?i'm not growing anymore so there arent any risks there

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10 Dec 2009 20:40 #30972 by Inja
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1.
How do you know that you are not growing anymore? You may be tall but your bones might still be widening you out...

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Your "potential to grow" right now is based on your personal testosterone levels. Steroids will not amplify that, rather, they will prevent you from ever attaining your maximum potential by shutting down your own natural test production. Your test levels are at an all time high between late teens and early twenties (some guys only start to peak at 21) and as a result your body is still able to grow in leaps and bounds. There is no need to shut down the personal hormone factory and replace it with exogenous hormones. In additional using gear now will never allow you to achieve your true potential, you could put on all the mass you would with that 1st cycle naturally, and then when your bigger you could add more to your frame with steroids. By using the steroids to early you become dependant on them and never attain all the mass you would without them.

Also, there is a risk of never recovering each time you start a cycle (as well as a multitude of other risks). Why start these risks earlier in life when you don't need to. The more cycles you do the greater the risks...

Look, 22 is not the worst age to start gear, but it is a bit of a waste of gear and an additional strain on your body that is uncalled for at this time. It's best to wait till your mid-twenties. But should you run the cycle stick with my advice and don't worry about the Deca.

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10 Dec 2009 21:27 #30974 by Logan87
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This is the reason why i joined the forum.to gain advice from the experienced 'dogs' on the block.ive got a phobia of needles so when i get the balls to inject something id go gung ho.i've been researching on the net and was wondering if it would be a good idea to do a cycle of dianabol and anavar?could you guys advise me on this point and if its possible to do such a cycle,give me a guidline as to how the cycle should look like?

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11 Dec 2009 05:01 #30978 by Fakey_AK
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Logan87 wrote:

This is the reason why i joined the forum.to gain advice from the experienced 'dogs' on the block.ive got a phobia of needles so when i get the balls to inject something id go gung ho.i've been researching on the net and was wondering if it would be a good idea to do a cycle of dianabol and anavar?could you guys advise me on this point and if its possible to do such a cycle,give me a guidline as to how the cycle should look like?

No no no :noway

When u cycle, TEST must be ure base.
U cant do two orals together, u'll stuff up ur liver properly
Ur weewee is gonna stop working on that proposed cycle.
U said ur here to learn, so listen what they are telling you

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11 Dec 2009 08:58 #30986 by DoberMan
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You could do an oral only cycle, anavar and tbol for instance. I would only take dbol as a front loader though, not the kind of thing you want to take for 6 weeks... But anavar will dry out your joints, so if you're like me and have dodgy joints from bike accidents and rugby/football etc, then stay away from it. Nice thing about a little oral cycle is minimal shutdown, therefore a very light pct. Gains will be ok, a few kg of lean muscle, with little to no side affects really.

If you are really wanting to do an injectable cycle, then start with just test for 12 weeks, and frontload with dbol. Your receptors are still going to be fresh, so you'll gain nicely on that. But eat big and eat clean. Stay away from deca and tren etc for now, they shut you down badly, and your pct will have to be spot on.

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