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13 Jan 2010 11:15 #33436 by minority
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Hi can someone give me some advice on my next cycle. My main goals would be to get more strength and speed than size(maby a little hehe), I have done 4 cycles before with good results and kept most of my gains. I play outside center so i don't want to sacrifice speed for size.

Stats:

Age: 23
Height: 1.85
Weight: 92kg
Bf%: 9% (had it check before the holidays so it might be up abit :blush: )

Cycle:
Anavar - week 1 to week 6
Deca 350 1ml p/w - week 1 to week 12
test cyp 200 x2 p/w - week 1 to week 12

Any suggestions?

Thanks

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13 Jan 2010 11:27 #33444 by tiny
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If you are hoping for a good career in Rugby,then lose the Deca,replace it with Equipoise.

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13 Jan 2010 11:28 #33445 by SNOK1986
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Champ do not take deca if u think about playing rugby... it can be found in ur body up to 18months.

Super test and stanazol.

week 1 - 10 super test @640mg a week
week 5 - 10 stanzol 5 tabs a day everyday.

PCT
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1 day after last stan pill 40mg a day for the first 2 weeks than 20mg a day for the remainder.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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13 Jan 2010 11:44 #33455 by missiondh
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Agreed lose the deca bud asap! Snokkie you are such a supertest whore! :P

"The best activities for your health are pumping and humping."

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13 Jan 2010 11:45 #33458 by Jayman
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hahahahahaha!!!
nuh I like the cycle proposed by snok but I would run the winny(sorry uhum stanazol) from week 8-12 and would prob include some hcg in there also

Train harder than the guy next to you and one day, no-one will be able to touch you

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13 Jan 2010 11:49 #33462 by Jayman
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PCT will start the day after you finish the winny.
enanthate and cypionate both have a halflife of around 14 days

Train harder than the guy next to you and one day, no-one will be able to touch you

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13 Jan 2010 11:56 #33466 by SNOK1986
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missiondh wrote:

Agreed lose the deca bud asap! Snokkie you are such a supertest whore! :P


HHHHAHAHAHAHHA - Ive been seeing good results from oaks who have been takin it so might as well spread the word. :laugh:

Yeah start the kesser day after last pin, forgot stan has a very short half life.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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13 Jan 2010 14:03 #33497 by tiny
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SNOK1986 wrote:

Champ do not take deca if u think about playing rugby... it can be found in ur body up to 18months.

Super test and stanazol.

week 1 - 10 super test @640mg a week
week 5 - 10 stanzol 5 tabs a day. one day on one day off

PCT
kesser
1 week after last pin 40mg a day for the first 2 weeks than 20mg a day for the remainder.


What do you mean 5 tabs a day? and why one day on one day off?.Ive never heard of that with winny.I think its bound to cause havok with blood levels.

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13 Jan 2010 14:07 #33498 by SNOK1986
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Arnt stan tabs 10mg per tab?

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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13 Jan 2010 14:09 #33499 by missiondh
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Yip 50mg a day for winny Snokker! ;)

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13 Jan 2010 14:14 #33501 by SNOK1986
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At least i got the 50mg part right, i think i got mixed up with clenbutral with winny one day on one day off.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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13 Jan 2010 14:18 #33502 by SNOK1986
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I changed it at the top check it out.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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13 Jan 2010 15:59 #33512 by minority
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Thanks guys!

Also like snoks proposal, i had a shoulder op when i was playing under 21 and was on stanazol at the time, shoulder got dislocated in a tackle, blamed stanazol for it... am i wrong to think so? with stanazol giving you dry joints or is it just a rumour?

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13 Jan 2010 16:12 #33513 by SNOK1986
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Yes stanazol does make ur joints dry how much that would play in injuring ur shoulder i dont know but ive done my shoulder as well when i played club rugga.

If u do feel ur joints hurting or anything while on stanazol stop taking it immedialty.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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13 Jan 2010 16:18 #33514 by minority
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Thanks man, wil throw my cycle around abit and post a final cycle later on..

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13 Jan 2010 16:21 #33515 by SNOK1986
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Alright awesome dude :) good luck with your rugby this year.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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13 Jan 2010 19:19 #33529 by Yohimbe
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minority wrote:

Thanks guys!

Also like snoks proposal, i had a shoulder op when i was playing under 21 and was on stanazol at the time, shoulder got dislocated in a tackle, blamed stanazol for it... am i wrong to think so? with stanazol giving you dry joints or is it just a rumour?


Winny does dry the joints, but it's not going to dislocate your shoulder.

Bump the winny, very good for explosive power and most abused drug by sprinters. Add some EQ to help your joints out, or you could use a low dose of NPP, but that also stays in your blood for a long time-metabolites last up to 1 year-so if you're being tested not. Any long ester is going to stay in your blood for a few months, so if you are being tested you need a short ester so it clears quickly.

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14 Jan 2010 12:28 #33595 by minority
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Ok i think my next cycle will look something like this? any suggestions? is the Equipoise too high?

week 1 - week 6 winstrol 50mg per day (tabs)
week 1 - week 12 test cypionate 750mg per week(3 shots p/w)
week 1 - week 12 equipoise 700mg per week(2 shots p/w)

PCT a required...

Thanks!

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14 Jan 2010 12:36 #33599 by SNOK1986
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I would keep the winny for the last 6 weeks.
I would drop the equi to 350mg a week.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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14 Jan 2010 12:37 #33600 by Empire
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dont use winstrol in the first 6 weeks,dont use winstrol at all with rugby,u are only gonna hurt your joints with winny... use dbol in place of winstrol.

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14 Jan 2010 12:40 #33601 by minority
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djeasye wrote:

dont use winstrol in the first 6 weeks,dont use winstrol at all with rugby,u are only gonna hurt your joints with winny... use dbol in place of winstrol.


Ok Maybe drop the winny add anavar for the first 6 weeks?

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14 Jan 2010 12:59 #33609 by Empire
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anavar is gonna give u the same joint issues as winstrol will use oral turanabol, but why are u so stressed about using lean mass substances in your cycle u are using a bulking test so why not use a bulking oral dude...

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14 Jan 2010 14:20 #33625 by minority
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djeasye wrote:

anavar is gonna give u the same joint issues as winstrol will use oral turanabol, but why are u so stressed about using lean mass substances in your cycle u are using a bulking test so why not use a bulking oral dude...


Thx Dj, i dont want to pick up too much weight, would rather try and get as much strenght and speed out of this cycle as i can, i always include some sort of test im my cycle, think i should just drop the orals altogether?

Thanks for all your advice so far guys and sorry for the 20 questions, just want to get the best cycle for my goals...

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14 Jan 2010 14:26 #33626 by Empire
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do u will pick up good weight from cyp and equi if your diet is right i still suggest using the dbol,the water will come off post cycle dude...

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14 Jan 2010 14:32 #33627 by minority
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Ok thanks dj, il stick with the test and equi and add some dbol as a frontloader :P

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