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07 Feb 2010 20:00 #35355 by truckstopper
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going into week 2 and feeling good so far.

I lost my previous spreadsheet but i made this one to get detailed day by day one.

I wanted to know your thoughts on this as well as how will i incorporate some clen into this. (File Removed)

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07 Feb 2010 21:03 #35359 by SNOK1986
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Not bad for a beginner cycle just i dont think u need HCG, kesser will do the job fine.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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07 Feb 2010 21:10 #35360 by truckstopper
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Ok Great thanks SNOK will look at it, how would i incl clen into it?

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07 Feb 2010 21:18 #35362 by SNOK1986
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No problem...only thing u need for the pct is kesser so leave out the clomid aswell.

Id run clen for the last 5 weeks, u cud run it into and thru ur pct even if u wanted too. But id do last 5 weeks of ur cycle, make sure u read up on how to take it coz it raises that blood pressure pretty quick so be careful.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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07 Feb 2010 21:49 #35364 by truckstopper
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SNOK1986 wrote:

No problem...only thing u need for the pct is kesser so leave out the clomid aswell.

Id run clen for the last 5 weeks, u cud run it into and thru ur pct even if u wanted too. But id do last 5 weeks of ur cycle, make sure u read up on how to take it coz it raises that blood pressure pretty quick so be careful.


ok great, so as i belive it CLen is 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off? So i dont need the HCG or clomid?

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07 Feb 2010 22:21 #35366 by Mr Moose
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Truckstopper:
Cant comment on the hcg because your spread sheet wont open...
But can comment on the clen and clomid anyway. Clomid is not necessary in just about every cycle, so No dont use it kessar taken correctly does the trick. As for the clen provided your calorie deficit is in chek you should use it through pct and for 3 or so weeks after to keep you anabolic and to in a way provide a post- post cycle securing and gain solidifying tool. There is controversy surrounding the use of clen after cycles, bla bla bla you loose your gains- bullshit aslong as you eat right on clen it is an awsum way to wean yourself off a cycle and into maintenance.
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07 Feb 2010 22:23 #35367 by milktuds
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Stick to the cycle as it is. Just use HCG 2x a week up until PCT, then 3 jabs for that week and you done with the HCG. You can use the Clomid the first ten days of your PCT if you want to. HCG and Kessar will be fine. My PCT comes together when I use all three.

I would use the Clen the first two weeks of PCT.

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07 Feb 2010 23:33 #35368 by Yohimbe
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I agree clen is a good idea for pct as it is anti catabolic and will help in maintaining muscle.

If you want to run it longer than 2 weeks, use some Beta Sleep-the Diphenhydramine HCI will help upregulate the beta receptors and allow the clen to keep working effectively for longer

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