Ancillaries help for cycle

Hey Guys,

Next cycle, 4th in 4 years, will consist of 640mg Supertest and 500mg Equipoise per week, frontloaded with Super Anadrol.
I will also be using 500iu hCG 1 per week throughout.

PCT and diet are all sorted.

I'm looking for some advice whether I should need any ancillaries like Nolva or Letro during the cycle. I plan on this being a 15 week cycle.
Never had any issues with gyno, on previous cycles, on similar dosages of gear.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated before I get into this cycle.

Thanks tons

I think its always a good idea to have some sort of estrogen combatting compound on hand for any cycle.

And allways good to put a diet, even if you think its sorted, juice is the least of the issue.

Id leave out the HCG and have a bottle of letro on hand, just watch out for gyno if u see any signs than start the letro immediatly or start it from the start to be safe but at a low dose...If you worried about estro maybe start the HCg from week 10 onwards but at low doses such as 250IU eod..my 2c...

If you don't have estrogen problems at all them I'd just get some extra tamoxifen on hand. Should gyno flare up then you can just hit it out with that.

Personally I don't have many side effects either, but I still run low dose letro and finasteride to keep estorogen and DHT in check. DHT and estro still goes up, but I limit the conversion rates. I'm just doing it to look after body in the long run. Most people don't though and they are happy...

Inja,

From when in the cycle should I use the low dose Letro and when should I look at the Finasteride?
Any reccomendation on dosage of these two?
I would be using Finpecia 1mg tabs and the the Letro oral liquid which is 2.5mg /ml. How many drops should I take?

Appreciate the help.

Is Fincar 5 the same thing as it contais finesteride at 5mg? Is 5mg too much as finpecia is only 1mg? when in your cycle would u start taking it though?

Fedsdead wrote:

Inja,

From when in the cycle should I use the low dose Letro and when should I look at the Finasteride?
Any reccomendation on dosage of these two?
I would be using Finpecia 1mg tabs and the the Letro oral liquid which is 2.5mg /ml. How many drops should I take?

Appreciate the help.

Finpecia will flare up gyno if you prone to it as DHT is a natrual AI and now you supressing it.. what are you trying to achieve by taking it?

Hi Pump,

I was going on the advice Inja was giving. My initial questions were asked at teh beginning when I started this thread. Inja's advice was possibly taking some Finasteride and Letro during cycle.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks for the input.

Well if you taking anadrol what is a derivative of DHT you waisting your time taking Fina even after the anadrol it will take time for the levels to settle. Letro is a good idea yes...

Yes I know its super anadrol not anadrol 50, still its a derivative of DHT..

You can use the standard 0.25 for the letro or even go lower since you are not gyno prone. The only thing that may aggravate the gyno is the anadrol.

I use 1mg of finasteride EOD to lower DHT (something like fincar should be cut). It may be that that hampers gains marginally but my stength and sex drive still increase so I'm not worried about low DHT. I've always used finasteride over 500mg of test a week, and I've done this primarily to look after my prostate. I will probably be using for a long time to come and don't want a swole up hard to piss prostate in 10-20 years. I also stops any possible shedding, which I'm not entirely prone to but have experienced in very minute amounts in the past. I feel the action of testosterone alone over 500mg a week is powerful enough that I don't need high levels of DHT and estrogen and I keep their levels low enough not to cause side effects but high enough that they affect me positively. I don't have exact blood levels but I go by how my body feels. Prevention is better than cure. I feel that if my estro or DHT run to low I can always add another drug into the mix. A DHT derivtive for instance, or I'm even playing with the idea of throwing in tri-anabol should my estrogen levels begin to crash a bit further into the cycle.

If you are limiting estrogen their is little to worry about in the way of inhibiting DHT and getting gyno. With an almost 50% EQ ratio there is even less to worry about as there will be alot of aromatase competition between test and EQ and thus less convertion of test to estrogen (conversion of Equipoise is lower than testosterone).

And this is exactly why every single user, new or old, should be a member of this forum.

Thanks again guys for the invaluable advice you give.
Amazingly without expecting anything in return.

Cheers guys.

Inja wrote:

You can use the standard 0.25 for the letro or even go lower since you are not gyno prone. The only thing that may aggravate the gyno is the anadrol.

I use 1mg of finasteride EOD to lower DHT (something like fincar should be cut). It may be that that hampers gains marginally but my stength and sex drive still increase so I'm not worried about low DHT. I've always used finasteride over 500mg of test a week, and I've done this primarily to look after my prostate. I will probably be using for a long time to come and don't want a swole up hard to piss prostate in 10-20 years. I also stops any possible shedding, which I'm not entirely prone to but have experienced in very minute amounts in the past. I feel the action of testosterone alone over 500mg a week is powerful enough that I don't need high levels of DHT and estrogen and I keep their levels low enough not to cause side effects but high enough that they affect me positively. I don't have exact blood levels but I go by how my body feels. Prevention is better than cure. I feel that if my estro or DHT run to low I can always add another drug into the mix. A DHT derivtive for instance, or I'm even playing with the idea of throwing in tri-anabol should my estrogen levels begin to crash a bit further into the cycle.

If you are limiting estrogen their is little to worry about in the way of inhibiting DHT and getting gyno. With an almost 50% EQ ratio there is even less to worry about as there will be alot of aromatase competition between test and EQ and thus less convertion of test to estrogen (conversion of Equipoise is lower than testosterone).

You right one needs to protect the prostrate, I find the ever since I started using Letro during a cycle I had no issue with my prostrate what so ever. Before that I use to have to go to the toilet like 3-5 times a night and hardly anything coming out. I even used to have to take drugs like 'Floxmax', etc.