Winnie during cycle

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10 Mar 2010 20:51 #39364 by ABC01
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If one wants to run winnie during your cycle what is the safest way to do it. Say its a 15 weeks EQ cycle. Can you do 6 weeks winnie take a break and then continue till the end of the cycle? I know its very liver toxic so im intersted to know how one can incorporate it in a entire cycle

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10 Mar 2010 21:44 #39365 by Yohimbe
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You can inject it so will reduce the liver stress a bit as there will only be one pass, but either way it's 17 alpha alkylated so it will raise liver enzymes. I wouldn't go over 6 weeks oral for an entire cycle, 4 is better, or 8 weeks injectable.
On a 15 weeker, you could perhaps run it first 4 weeks and last 4 weeks oral, but make sure you're running lots of milk thistle and prohep throughout

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10 Mar 2010 23:18 #39367 by Netro
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ABC01 wrote:

If one wants to run winnie during your cycle what is the safest way to do it. Say its a 15 weeks EQ cycle. Can you do 6 weeks winnie take a break and then continue till the end of the cycle? I know its very liver toxic so im intersted to know how one can incorporate it in a entire cycle


To give a good response you will have to share your cycle with us.
The oral and injectable have one distinct difference besides the fact that one you inject and the other you swallow.

Share the cycle and we can advise from there.

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11 Mar 2010 19:46 #39494 by ABC01
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Ok im contemplating my next cycle starting mid August. It will be a 15 weeks cycle. Im not interested in bulking. Just want clean lean muscle and strength. At this stage it looks like 3 possibilities.

1. EQ 350mg/week and supertest 320ml/week for 15 weeks
2. EQ only at 350mg/week and maybe a shot of test en at 250mg every second or 3rd week to keep the test levels up
3. The same as option 2 but put the winnie into the mix for most of the cycle or periodically if possible.

I ran my 1st option past DJ and he thinks it is fine but suggest i up the test to 640ml/week. Im not so keen on that as i am scared to gain to much weight. Im into endurence sports so allot of weight gain is a big no no. Thats also the reason i want EQ in the mix, because of the elevated blood levels

If i do option 1 i will run small dosage of hcg halfway through cycle and then do desent pct at the end

Suggestions would be apreciated

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11 Mar 2010 20:14 #39498 by Mr Moose
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Dj is correct, but get what you are saying, how you gain really depends on how you eat and how you train:

I you are in endurance sports you are not going to focus too intesely on fast twitch training and alot of compound movements, therefore DJ's suggestion coupled with training that suits your goals should be perfect. As far as the winny goes, make your cycle 14 weeks (for the eq) and add the winny at week 11 untill week 16 then start PCT.

Alternatively you can go your Test e route but it will be less effective at such dosages try shoot at least once a week and try get around 400mg if that makes you comfortable. Again 14 weeks winny in at 11.

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11 Mar 2010 21:45 #39503 by ABC01
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Thanx Moose Man! I think i will stick to option 1, make it 14 weeks and add the winnie week 11. The winnie seems to have a good effect on my body. My interval training is insane when i add it in. I did a 6 weeks winnie cycle about 3 years ago while knowing nothing at all about any anabolics. I can remember my interval training being awsome then as well. Did a time trial the other day and it was one of my best times in 3 years. Geuss what? One of my previous best times was during that winnie cycle. I can only assume that my body reacts well to it

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