How a Moose Gets through 2010

Mr Moose wrote:

Hey rooz:

Yea tough sports- been doing boxing semi pro and even pro for a few fights at one stage, then good old "patricious" sport doctor tunes me definate signs of arthritis in next 20 years!! Then got this sh1t break!! Fuck!! Ha ha;) but its chilled I love it! Which dojo did you fight under?? Korean mixed in SA- I presume sinsay basil/ paul and co??

Nah just do the 6 amps hey iam a big fan of the gradual come off... The rest of your cycle is sharp don't complicate it. The rest sounds all good!

Listen I've seen everything from different coloured vials to weird coloured substances!! Basically if there are vial lines of any colour its fake, if the substance isn't almost clear its fake and the writing should be yellow! Just post pic for the best!

Peace

ja great sport, and no actually did the tang soo doo. not mixed but full contact. and kay will stick with the cycle as is. and will post pic just waiting for my camera will get it tommorow. thank mooseman strongs for the hand.

Try and break the bar mate

And away we go:
With some minor / major alterations! ha ha;)

Being injured gives you too much time to think! I started yesterday with my tren, prop, Eq (which i have been running 4 weeks already). And so the cycle will look like this from monday!

>Test Prop, 50mg ED, with 2x 100mg shots (monday + thursday), week 1-10, and then a taper till just past week 11.
>Tren ace, 60mg ED, week 1-5. 50mg ED, week 6&7. 30mg, ED, week 8.
>Primo, 400mg, split in 2 shots per week, week 1-10.
>EQ, 70mg, ED (prop assitance), week 1-10.
>Winny, 50mg, ed, week 9-12(inject)
>HCG 500iu per week.
>T3 & Letro on cycle tapered accordingly at correct times.

PCT:
A mrmoose + Doc hybrid (clomid, kessar, ovidrol, proviron, D-bol and a few other herbs) starting after last winny shot!

Maintain:
>HGH 6iu for PCT 4iu off, 5 on 2 off, week 11- 6 months after.
>Clen + Reverzine, week 12-14 & 16-18.
>Whole Gaspari range (free - dont tune me about the sups;))

Peace

Jayzuz Moose u r my hero lol

Ha ha you like Snork??

Iam keeeen keeen keen! just wish i had more feedback on the PGW tren ace, but going for it none the less;)

Peace

You really dont need to add EQ just to soothe the Prop pain - PGW is absolutely painless - promise.
Take all the precaution with the Tren Your doses arent as high as mine were and neither is the duration as long, but at one stage my urine got a bit dark and i had to up the cranberry, water etc.
I truly prefer NPP.
Also - whats up with the peaks and lows? Why taper?

Used the Prop before hey jack, prefer it with a bit of EQ and ED shots for 11+- weeks so may as well be comfortable.

Iam a firm believer in not coming of too many compounds at a time, very driven on natural gains, and the Tren, if its good should give me a lekker boost even at that dose, and would like to come off that gradually! May actually start at 80mg then to 60mg then to 40mg will see how these last few shots work before monday. Were you using the PGW tren ace?? What did you think?? Results?? Sides?? any feedback would be great still the only product of theirs i am sceptical on!

Shot

I had a bit of a bum cycle last time round so i shouldnt really speak.
It went the way of my NPP cycle but not as successfull. That was a double leg cycle as well and i think the main problem there was overtraining.
Personally i think ECA contributed to that. Kept me from sleeping well. Even if i only used it as a boost before workouts.
Speak to the Squirrel - he has seen some nice returns from it.

I've always done an extra month or so on Prop alone - helps me plenty come PCT time. On the NPP/Prop cycle i also hit the proviron hard in the Prop-only month and got nice and vascular in that time.

I hate it when a cycle doesnt work out out hey> Nothing worse!
ECA must be used with caution hey you right can have some very negative effects on the muscles! Did you enjoy your PGW Tren overall though?? Sides??
Ok well hopefully the Squirrel will see and give some input, i always end up changing as i go along, add a week or 2, up the doses lower the doses whatever feels right, but from past experience i think what i mapped is about as close to what its going to be!
Yea also got an extra month or so over the tren for the Prop, works wonders might even carry on a while longer depending on how i like the Stanabolic, never tried it!
Hoping for that vascular effect> Goals are say drop 3% BF, Gain 3kg+-, and increase strength 5-8%

Lets see;)

Peace

Most realistic target i've seen! :laugh:

Tren sides were just the darker urine and very dark at some stage. I ran 120mg EOD though. Too much in my opinion. Other than that nothing major - the wife did ask "why so grumpy" at one stage and i realized i need to keep my attitude in check. O.... almost smacked a colleague but he had a kak attitude. Other than that no sides.
Did do Kefei with that. keffei+Tren+ECA = not enough rest(No deep sleep).
I probably will give it a slip from here on and rather do NPP. Getting too old for that i think.

I just saw my new cycle hahaha looks good mooseman, keep us updated on the results. effects, sides ect!!! will be a good log and how you rotate your shots at 10 weeks ED

Mr Moose wrote:

Ha ha you like Snork??

Iam keeeen keeen keen! just wish i had more feedback on the PGW tren ace, but going for it none the less;)

Peace

Yeah i like that cycle, i think the primo is gonna do u wonders. Keep us in the loop when u start this cycle as im keen to maybe do something similar.

Will keep you guys Updated! Will log maybe once a week from monday.

Shit pitty i cant post pics, maybe with a rash vest? But i will think:) But will give measurements and stats on monday>

I am very keen only second time using primo and only first time REALLY using it!

As far as the shots go i am doing quads, chest & delts> gives me 6 spots;) should be perfect!

Peace

Just post pics man LOL :laugh:

Eish u jabbing pecs...i always get blood in the syringe while doing chest i prefer shoulders, quads and glutes.

Will be lakka to see how this turns out ....oh and thanks for being a lab rat for my future cycle LOL

Ha ha i will try see what i can do>

Yea pecs are my favorite hey - well depends where do you jab in your pecs??

Pleasure snorker ha ha happy to be your lab rat:) I get to do it first though so i feel special;)
HA HA

Peace

Got a mate who also loves doing his pecs i dont see the fun in it LOL

I inject around here to scared to go across in case of hitting a bone.

I shoot same place or side on at the base so i get right in but the spot you said is almost exact. Do you have a good poke with your finger before to find a nice zone - also do you try avoid any visible veins?
Probably does have the most possibility of getting blood but i promise if you sink right there is no better spot for recovery and pain! 25g, 1inch, sunk in 3/4 of the way:) perfect!

Peace

Nah i dont poke around lol and i have 2 visible veins which i do miss by far and than i cant see if there any other veins around.

I do use 23g 1 inchers which go all the way in.

Ill try it again, try a diff spot and with 25g 1 inch needle 3/4 way in see how that goes.

Lets get back to the topic :laugh:

:shooting

Ok day 1 here we go! stats time:)

Basic:

> Weight: 115kg
> Height: 188cm
> BF %: 12-13%

Measurements:

> Neck: 46cm
> Shoulder width (across back joint bone to joint bone): 58cm
> Biceps (at biggest place, flexed): L- 49cm, R- 49cm.
> Forearms (at biggest place, flexed): L- 37cm, R- 38cm.
> Chest (at biggest place, flexed): 125cm
> Top of 6 pack ( flexed): 110cm
> Quads (at hilt): L- 64cm, R- 67cm.
> Quads (at biggest place, flexed): L- 75cm, R- 76cm.
> Calves (at biggest place, flexed): L- 48cm, R- 51cm.

Anything else?? Peace

Hey mr moose man nice stats bro, Tell me did you have a injury on your left leg that there is that much of a difference in size on the calve and hilt of the quad? Or just because your right dominant?

Shot brother!

Yea i did had major surgery 2 years ago +- , wasn't very fun! Never recovered the size back but strength is solid;)

Peace

Well it will come back with time as long as the strength is back. What is your overall goal on cm size pick up mate?

I think POES GROOT as he always stresses.

looking good mr moose. eager to c results from cycle.

@milktuds - im starting to think u like that word more than he does

Ha ha milk hit the nail on the head!!

Get back to 118kg and drop to 10% or below get the guns over 50cm again! and then pretty happy with everything else... Maybe some more quad size around the hilt, but would say primary goal is minimal cutting if that makes sense;)

Ha ha shot fakey!

Eager to see the results aswel! Nah i copyrighted that shit;)

Peace