Cycle Edited

Hey its the DODO here

Thanx for your opinions guys its much more informative than just doing research. Your advise on this cycle?

Objects I need you guys to give critisism

- Pct and would you guys change the pregnyl to ovidrel?
- the stanzolol, is it to long to stay on that dose, wont it be harsh on the system with tren?
- Rather change winstrol to masterone from pgw the 100mg prop with 50 mg enth.
- change arimadex to letro as i am a little more prone to water retension. maybe to use letro that supresses more.?
- and will kessar influence the tren as i read in previous and ancient posts?


Thanx guys
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My word bru your cycle is hard to understand:

Listen your pct is in a shambles?? What is this you taking kessar while still cycling??

And also your compound positioning?? Rather frontload with your tren for the first 6 weeks and then stay on the EQ throughout the cycle at say 350-500mg per week. It doesnt make sense the way you are doing it?? Or anything for that matter??

Will try revise it in my next post, but judged on your knowledge this cycle is far too hardcore for you.

Peace

Something more like this:

Adex: 0.5mg, every day, week 1-16, taper off week 17.

Proviron: 25mg, every day, week 1-4

D-bol: 40mg, every day, week 1-4

Test E: 1ml, 2X per week, week 1-14

Tren Mix: 1ml, 2X per week, week 1-6

EQ: +- 200mg, 2X per week, week 1-14

Winny tab: 50mg, every day, week 13-16

HCG: 500iu, once per week, week 5-14. 500iu second third day weeks 15-16.

Clomid: 100mg, 5 days of week 17. 50mg, last 2 days of week 17 and first 3 days week 18. (10 days total).

Kessar: 20mg, every day, week 18-21.

Compare the 2 and revise yours,
Yours makes no sense to me and the above i believe is too hardcore for someone with your level of knowledge about gear.

Peace.

Mr Moose wrote:

Something more like this:

Adex: 0.5mg, every day, week 1-16, taper off week 17.

Proviron: 25mg, every day, week 1-4

D-bol: 40mg, every day, week 1-4

Test E: 1ml, 2X per week, week 1-14

Tren Mix: 1ml, 2X per week, week 1-6

EQ: +- 200mg, 2X per week, week 1-14

Winny tab: 50mg, every day, week 13-16

HCG: 500iu, once per week, week 5-14. 500iu second third day weeks 15-16.

Clomid: 100mg, 5 days of week 17. 50mg, last 2 days of week 17 and first 3 days week 18. (10 days total).

Kessar: 20mg, every day, week 18-21.

Compare the 2 and revise yours,
Yours makes no sense to me and the above i believe is too hardcore for someone with your level of knowledge about gear.

Peace.

Moose, why not run the tren and proviron at the end of the cycle to get the maximum effect of those two drugs? After all they're at their most effective then.

okay but what i heard is use the tren when you finish the equipoise, to get hard why would you rather take it as a frontload?

Thats why I give you guys my silly posts, because the okes that i talk to is oldschool ( no disrespect they teached me alot about training and diet) but whey are sticking and just know about deca, sus and depo.

So please bare with my posts as i was on the band wagon of just hitting cycles of deca and sus and the dosages was low.
thats why i want to get on a lean mass cycle burn unwanted body fat and increase my muscle mass.

what would the moose recommend for a cycle???

Test E, equi, leaving the stanzolol and taking masterone. and the ideal AI to keep water down from the test e
and pct!! i appreciate it man

Vega:
Yes correct, as a cutting and hardening tool.
It is also equally as effective as a frontloader due to its srength, but this is getting into the big boys toys area.

Either way i dont believe the tren should actually be added, for experience purposes. I dont care how non prone someone is to the sides you will get them, especially on that dose and especially because he is planning on using the mix (blood levels being played with). What do you think?

Roozer:
I would suggest a simple Test E, Eq cycle with masteron, if you desire, ending on about 4 weeks of winny (for the last 2 weeks and the PCT window). Nice and simple but effective for the lean mass goal. PROVIDED DIET IS IN PLACE!

As far as the AI goes its personal- Adex 0.5mg? Letro 0.25mg? Up to you vega and i actually discussed this one the other day.

PCT do the one i put down for you.

Peace

Did you mean test E moose, not TREN E like you said keep it simple i would rather then just hit the tren after 2 or more cycles maybe next year.

And masterone and winny together musnt i rather use one or the other? and dosages and length? would you suggest 600mg test E and Equi on 700mg

and would you use dbol for a frontloader?

And have you ever used letro drops how does that work?
And what about the clen?

Srry for all the questions man

Fanx mr moose man

Yes sorry bru just edited it had tren on my mind busy sorting my cycle out as we speak. Good plan man, 2 more cycle at least then give the big T a go.

Yea you see its alot of DHT but the cutting effects of that combo are rather significant, bearing in mind they only going to overlap 2 weeks so dont worry too much.
Test E: Week 1-14, 1ml, 2X per week.
Eq: Week 1-14, 0.75ml-1ml, 2X per week.
Mast: Which brand? if PGW: Week 1-14, 1ml-1.5ml, 2X per week.
Winn: Week 13-16, 50mg, ED.

Yes d-bol or prop. D-bol will be easier.

Um have used the tabs chopped and measured a couple times, LP drops only once, same thing really just more convenient, always works for me but a very individual drug. Bear in mind i push close on 1mg a day minimum for water and side prevention reasons with no ill effects besides low estrogen count, others get related sides off .25. So i dont know, try the LP adex iam giving it a go aswel.

Pleasure man, Karma is a free commodity.
Peace

hahaha already upped your karma 2 times will do it a 3rd as you helped me. okay got it ill try the drops i get it at a good price haha . and yes all brands pgw never used pgw.

But lets hope all goes good and starting next month mid april just hope there is enough weights in the gym :woohoo:

Before i forget with the masterone, i know it is prone to block estrogen or actually stop conversion do you think letro is still advisable in the beginning of the cycle lets say week 1-10?

thanx moose gaan groot of gaan huistoe

Pleasure bru all the best:

Hope your diet is all sound by the way, and that you have all your sups and support sups in order??

If not, or if you are unsure post up your sups and support sups list and also your diet. If those arent in line the cycle wont work en dan sal jy huistoe gaan.

Peace

Roozer wrote:

Before i forget with the masterone, i know it is prone to block estrogen or actually stop conversion do you think letro is still advisable in the beginning of the cycle lets say week 1-10?

Hey Roozer

The Masteron itself wont "block" Estrogen enough, think you should stick to low dose Letro

Masteron is unaffected by the aromatase and 5alpha-reductase enzymes and therefore there are no issues with estrogen or with potentiation (increase of effect) in tissues such as the skin and prostate. In fact, Masteron is somewhat anti-estrogenic due to competing with estradiol at the estrogen receptor, while not itself activating the receptor, and perhaps by likewise competing with testosterone for the binding site of the aromatase enzyme, thus reducing conversion.

This is a benefit when only a moderate amount of aromatizing steroids are used and no other anti-estrogen is used. It is not, however, sufficient to fully deal with high doses of aromatizing steroids, or at least not with typical doses of Masteron; and is unnecessary when more effective anti-estrogens are employed.

thanx bb that helps okay i am going to talk to my guy and see which of the 2 letro or adex he has ready available and which suits the budget the best.

but i am keen on the letro drops, not really good chopping up pills hehe.

This was very insightfull. you can always learn baby always and i have a shit load more to learn