Test E + Equi + Test prop Cycle

Good day my Fellow Bodybuilders.

a bit of cycle backgrounds and personal.

177'
28 years old
16% BF
84Kg
Not fit but getting there :lol:

Dieet and training is sorted.... for those who would say "sort out your training and dieet first" :blink:

Previous cycles,

12 weeker of Anapolin 50 ED
Super Test
Tren Ace.

Unfortuanatly not the best PCT so lost alot of gains.

My goal is to put on as many good muscle for the end of the year when I wil be using a Wintstrol cycle to shed the fat.


Started begin Jan 2010 with 1ml per week Equi @ 350/ml and 1ml per week Test E @ 300mg/ml for 10 weeks.
PCT i got covered this time with week 11 250iu for 8days and Nolva at 40mg/20mg/20mg and Clomid at 25mg for 20days.

Why I started begining of this year? Why not?
my goal was just to get some juice in me ( i was sick of the normal Test Booster. But to my surprise, i jumped up from 81kg to 87kg. Lekker!

Got the basics covered and now looking to start my next Heavy Cycle at begining May 2010

I think I got it covered but would like to hear second opinions.

Cycle as follows,

week 1-2 1ml Test Prop@ 1ml EOD (100mg/ml)
Using test prop to "kick start" my test

week 1-14 Test E @ 2ml p/w (300mg/ml)
week 15-16 Sust 250 @ 1ml p/w

week 1-10 Equipoise @ 2ml p/w (350mg/ml)
week 11-12 Deca Durabolin @ 2ml p/w (100mg/ml


PCT
Will be using 250iu of HCG throughout @ 250iu twice a week
Clomid @ Week 1 @ 100mg ED
week 2 @ 50mg ED
week 3 @ 25mg ED
Nolvadex @ week 1 @ 40mg ED
week 2 @ 20mg ED
week 3 @ 20mg ED

Wil also get a Aromi. during the cycle. Do you guys think it is nessesary?????

Also let me explain the above cycle... I'm pretty sure most of you is thinking... test E and then suddenly sust??

I threw in sust and the end cause the vails is just 20ml and to complete a full 16week test run I needed 2ml extra, and they don't have Iamps available in Test E so, thus the Sust250. Plus I think with the mix between short and long esters, i will be a nice coming off and not a sudden drop. IMPO

same with the Equi. Needed 4ml extra thus the Deca.

Just because I can.


Any suggestions???

Looks ok except for the Deca and the Sust at the end. They both got looong esters attached and will just delay recovery/start of PCT

How's your liver after 12 weeks of A bombs? Shorten the cycle or get more gear as simple as that. PCT doesn't look too well either.

that I know,

I just figured with the Deca or equi supposed to be used minimum of 12weeks... I might throw in a Deca, who as far as I know is almost like Equi, to finish it off....

I think (I hope) he meant the cycle was 12 weeks and added Naps for x amount of time (hopefully not 12 weeks)

After 12 weeks of naps ur liver must look like this @(#*YE@#EY@(*#EY(*@E(@E(*@#E@(*#E

Otherwise i wud do this

week 1 - 4 > test prop 100mg eod
week 1 - 14 > test en 600mg per week
week 1 - 14 > equi 400mg per week

simple effective.

No, not for the whole 12weeker i used Naps??

week 1-6 ED
week 7-8 EOD

jacquespa wrote:

that I know,

I just figured with the Deca or equi supposed to be used minimum of 12weeks... I might throw in a Deca, who as far as I know is almost like Equi, to finish it off....

You can swap over the Test. I don't see that causing any problems, but Eq and Deca are two totally different substances. Either one or the other.

By the way you shouldn't start your cycle till July at least. You need to give your body a break.

drop the deca and the sust, run eq full 14 weeks , run test higher than the eq.



my 2c

The only thing the Deca will do at the end is further suppress your HPTA, It will keep total blood levels high, but you can still achieve this with something less harsh and that wont delay your PCT start. (like adding more Prop to maintain an equal androgen level till you come completely off all drugs)

BB_guy wrote:

The only thing the Deca will do at the end is further suppress your HTPA, It will keep total blood levels high, but you can still achieve this with something less harsh and that wont delay your PCT start. (like adding more Prop to maintain an equal androgen level till you come completely off all drugs)

So what you would then suggest is, get another 4weeks worth of Equi... to extend it to 14weeks,

and then drop the sust and switch over to prop to come off lightly until all is off with the drugs??

How much time did you take off between the Anaps,Tren cycle and the Jan 2010 one?

The length you run the Equi for is up to you, but yes if you need some more, get some more

milktuds wrote:

How much time did you take off between the Anaps,Tren cycle and the Jan 2010 one?

About 5 years.....

week 1 - 4 > test prop 100mg eod
week 1 - 14 > test en 600mg per week or 750mg per week.
week 1 - 14 > equi 400mg per week

simple effective.

PCT

HCG 10 days after last shot of test and equi 1000IU of HCG cut down to 500IU every 3rd day. Do it for 2 weeks.

Kesser do 20mg ed for 2 weeks. (day after last pin of HCG)

What brands did you use for that Anaps,Tren,Super Test cycle?

@Snokkie, Kessar for 30 days @ 20mg.

jacquespa wrote:

milktuds wrote:

How much time did you take off between the Anaps,Tren cycle and the Jan 2010 one?

About 5 years.....

give it another 3 months at least ........

seriously though snok plan solid

milktuds wrote:

What brands did you use for that Anaps,Tren,Super Test cycle?

@Snokkie, Kessar for 30 days @ 20mg.

Milktuds....

I would lie if I told you..... it was so long ago.

I was in London that time and the guy did give me legit sh%t but the brands I don'y know.

@ milktuds - Why 30 days?

SNOK1986 wrote:

@ milktuds - Why 30 days?

:laugh: maybe he likes the way the Nolva tastes... :laugh:

SNOK1986 wrote:

@ milktuds - Why 30 days?

I don't think he'll recover of 2 weeks of Kessar after such a long cycle, even with HCG. 30 days has always been the norm.

jacquespa wrote:

SNOK1986 wrote:

@ milktuds - Why 30 days?

:laugh: maybe he likes the way the Nolva tastes... :laugh:

lol

milktuds wrote:

SNOK1986 wrote:

@ milktuds - Why 30 days?

I don't think he'll recover of 2 weeks of Kessar after such a long cycle, even with HCG. 30 days has always been the norm.

upon researching and forms reading I would think this is the norm for a kessar PCT

3 weeks min... @ week 1 40mg ED, week 2 20mg ED and week 3 20mg ED..

thats just my thought.

milktuds wrote:

SNOK1986 wrote:

@ milktuds - Why 30 days?

I don't think he'll recover of 2 weeks of Kessar after such a long cycle, even with HCG. 30 days has always been the norm.

True, but i only do 20mg after my HCG for 14days, i recover well. I dont like running tamoxifen for long periods for me personally. But i think to be safe take it for 30 days. I guess what works for one person might not work for another.