Advice on my first cycle

Ok guys, I've been training for about a year now and gained 4.6kg lean muscle all natural...but gains have reached somewhat of a plateau and I'm considering going on my first cycle (if I can come over my fear of needels that is :blush: ), here all my info;

Body

1.88m
96kg
9.60% bf

Diet

I'm currently bulking

5h00 Pre-workout - NO Explode NT 45mins before training and 3 scoops whey (23g protein)+ 5g bcaa's + 5g l-glutamine 15mins before training

7h00 Post-workout - Shake (48g protein/78g carbs) + 5g bcaa's + 5g l-glutamine + 5g creatine mono

7h30 1 cup oats + scoop whey + black coffee

9h00 Whey (23g protein) + green apple

11h00 Whey (23g protein) + green apple

13h00 2 cups whole wheat pasta + can tuna

15h00 2 cups brown rice + 200g chicken + cup veggies

17h00 200g chicken + apple

19h00 Whey (23g protein)

21h00 300g lean steak + cup veggies

Recommended cycle (5 weeks)

week 1-5 (2/per week) - 1ml Equipoise 200mg + 1ml Sustanon 350mg

week 1-5 (3/per week) - 1ml 1ml Tren Acettate 75mg

week 1-5 (3/day)- Anavar

Week 4-5 (1/day) - Kessar

This was my first "cycle" advise I got so I'm far from convinced as I've read up extensively on Sus 350 and have come to the conclusion that it hurts like hell!

Any advise will be appreciated

ok well i wouldnt use tren for your first cycle,also your diet needs alot of work, not enough carbs pre work out to much post work out,not enough whole protein... also sust 350? ummm i dont think so,also i wouldnt use equi for 5 weeks,double or triple the cycle length,but at the end of the day i would just stick to test only for your first cycle for 10-15weeks.plain and simple...and where is your pct? at 96kgs your diet needs a shit load of work.

what brand of gear are u using that give u a sust 350mg?

Eish that cycle looks like an absolute balls up... Listen to Dj, just plain test buddy. And ya, sustanon comes as 250mg/ml

DJ wrote:

what brand of gear are u using that give u a sust 350mg?

I believe the brand is Diamond, the guy said I dont need pct if going on short cycle

DJ wrote:

ok well i wouldnt use tren for your first cycle,also your diet needs alot of work, not enough carbs pre work out to much post work out,not enough whole protein... also sust 350? ummm i dont think so,also i wouldnt use equi for 5 weeks,double or triple the cycle length,but at the end of the day i would just stick to test only for your first cycle for 10-15weeks.plain and simple...and where is your pct? at 96kgs your diet needs a shit load of work.

More carbs pre-workout? Problem is I only have time to go to the gym at 6h00 in the morning...would I then have to get up at 4h00 to get more carbs in as NO Explode needs to be taken on an empty stomach?

WHole lot of work on my diet? Atm I'm getting 300g protein and 400g carbs...is that not enough :S

Short cycle + long esters - maka no sense

porsche944 wrote:

DJ wrote:

what brand of gear are u using that give u a sust 350mg?

I believe the brand is Diamond, the guy said I dont need pct if going on short cycle

The "guy" is talking crap. The Tren will shut you down badly so you'll need PCT.

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Short cycle + long esters - maka no sense

Oh yeah that too!

porsche944 wrote:

DJ wrote:

ok well i wouldnt use tren for your first cycle,also your diet needs alot of work, not enough carbs pre work out to much post work out,not enough whole protein... also sust 350? ummm i dont think so,also i wouldnt use equi for 5 weeks,double or triple the cycle length,but at the end of the day i would just stick to test only for your first cycle for 10-15weeks.plain and simple...and where is your pct? at 96kgs your diet needs a shit load of work.

More carbs pre-workout? Problem is I only have time to go to the gym at 6h00 in the morning...would I then have to get up at 4h00 to get more carbs in as NO Explode needs to be taken on an empty stomach?

WHole lot of work on my diet? Atm I'm getting 300g protein and 400g carbs...is that not enough :S

bro how can u tell me that u are having 400g of carbs when u dont weight everything out, any way 400g of carbs is to much in my opinion,u are not having enough fats, your carbs should be taken pre work out,breakfast and post work out,u dont need carbs any other time of the day...u need to increase your fats and i still think your protein is a bit low aswell... no explode doesnt need to to be taken on an empty stomach...taking in no carbs before u train is like trying to drive from capetown to jhb on R50 worth of petrol,no wonder u have hit a platau... making a sust thats 350mg per ml is near impossible....the highest amount of test i've ever seen in 1 ml is 320mg per ml and even thats at the highest end possible..

DJ wrote:bro how can u tell me that u are having 400g of carbs when u dont weight everything out[/quote]

Well, I weight my raw meat on an electric scale and rice/pasta/veg I calculate per cup, is that not accurate enough? Then I have been doing it wrong for about a year :blush:

Regarding Sustanon 350 is a blend of 75mg/ml Testosterone Propionate, 125mg/ml Testosterone Phenylpropionate and 150mg/ml Testosterone Enanthate...does this sound legit or not? Made by Diamond UGL

Here's a link

gallery.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-photog...tanon/202/Image.aspx

porsche944 wrote:

DJ wrote:bro how can u tell me that u are having 400g of carbs when u dont weight everything out

Well, I weight my raw meat on an electric scale and rice/pasta/veg I calculate per cup, is that not accurate enough? Then I have been doing it wrong for about a year :blush:

Regarding Sustanon 350 is a blend of 75mg/ml Testosterone Propionate, 125mg/ml Testosterone Phenylpropionate and 150mg/ml Testosterone Enanthate...does this sound legit or not? Made by Diamond UGL

Here's a link

gallery.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-photog...tanon/202/Image.aspx [/quote]

I just know of axio that makes the sust 325mg and that is basically the limit for sust. but ja let the other okes tell you about diamond i have never heard of it.

And bud on your cycle you are trying to go too fancy keep to the basics like DJ said.

Maybe just a nice test E or cyp between 500-600mg per week for atleast 10weeks min best between 12-14
4 weeks dbol frontload 40mg ED
Good pct go and look at doctari's pct protocol at pct dicussions.

You dont want to stuff up your body and health by doing the roids wrong bud.

Stay safe to play hard

bro is your cup heaped or unheaped,is your rice cooked till hard or soft? how long do u bake a potato for etc? all these factors change things,if u are weighing out your raw meat why are u not weighting out the raw carbs?i still wouldnt trust that sust.

Damn, I didnt realise that a diet is such an exact science...I just though +- the right amount is fine...looks like I have alot to learn :blush:

Thanks for all the feedback to date

Yeah...I'm also not trusting that sust...looks like its back to square 1

The last 944's were made in 1991. Is yours a S, S2 or Cabrio? :dry:

Mine was a 1990 white Turbo with the "S" package which meant 30bhp more, uprated suspension, brakes, elec leather seats, a/c, sunroof and kickass 10 speaker tape radio :lol:

Was an awesome car to drive, especially as it still whipped all other okes in their gti's

Bought the car when I was 21 for R80k from my uncle as the thing was just sitting in his garage in pristine condition, had it for 4 years until the extra 30bhp caused by brother to oversteer it right through a palisade fence and wrote it off

porsche944 wrote:

... until the extra 30bhp caused by brother to oversteer it right through a palisade fence and wrote it off

Didnt listen to all the warnings on Top Gear then? Dont all have piggies that problem?

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Dont all have piggies that problem?

:huh:

porsche944 wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Dont all have piggies that problem?

:huh:

Porche... Porke??? Anyway - thats what the clan calls it here.

Hahaha, understood...well actually its only the 911 that "apparently" had that problem...wont get into too much detail on a bb forum though...

Thats a crap cycle whoever made it up just threw a bunch of things together. If you wanna keep it to a short cycle go for short esters like all orals and definitely test prop, just for 5weeks (if you insist on going on a short cycle) to see how ur body reacts to gear.

Dbol @ 30-40mg/w for week 1 to 5 (105-140 10mg pills)
Test prop @100mg eod (mon,wed,fri) (15ml total)

PCT u can get ur own 1, another advantage of the short cycle is HCG wont be needed imo just stick to nol/clo and no anti-estrogens in week 1-5 u wanna use the water retention to ur advantage.

After a while you should get quite used to injecting, let someone else do it for you esp cos ur scared of needles u dont want it to shake or move backwards or forwards after u aspirated. Before the first shot ull worry the most but just go ahead and do it after the 3rd or so shot ur gonna do it as if its just another activity.

coming from the guy who posted this only 2 days ago...

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/4-cycle...-first-cycle-bulking

no offense but i'm not sure you are in the advice giving population of this forum, yet, aren't you actually too young to be on here according to the forum rules anyway?

Look i dont know much for all i know its solid advice haha but i for one wouldn't listen to you in light of your first thread, hey not meaning to be a dick or anything

OnlyUseB12 wrote:

Dbol @ 30-40mg/w for week 1 to 5 (105-140 10mg pills)
Test prop @100mg eod (mon,wed,fri) (15ml total)

PCT u can get ur own 1, another advantage of the short cycle is HCG wont be needed imo just stick to nol/clo and no anti-estrogens in week 1-5 u wanna use the water retention to ur advantage.

bro shut the fuck up.honestly u are pissing me off... why are u using something like test prop that has little estrogen convertion and stack it with someone thats known to cause water retention such as dbol? u want to keep the A.I'S on hand incase u get high estrogen related sides from the dbol. u honestly need to shut the fuck up and learn how to use chemicals.....

DJ wrote:

OnlyUseB12 wrote:

Dbol @ 30-40mg/w for week 1 to 5 (105-140 10mg pills)
Test prop @100mg eod (mon,wed,fri) (15ml total)

PCT u can get ur own 1, another advantage of the short cycle is HCG wont be needed imo just stick to nol/clo and no anti-estrogens in week 1-5 u wanna use the water retention to ur advantage.

bro shut the fuck up.honestly u are pissing me off... why are u using something like test prop that has little estrogen convertion and stack it with someone thats known to cause water retention such as dbol? u want to keep the A.I'S on hand incase u get high estrogen related sides from the dbol. u honestly need to shut the fuck up and learn how to use chemicals.....

haaaaahahahahahahaha...! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
GO DJ! KARMA! LOL :woohoo:

Admin Please ban This OnlyUseB12 dude kick his ass out this Forum.