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22 Apr 2010 10:46 #43035 by Gearedup
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can i run winny for 32 weeks 100mg day


ok ok not really

read in a few places that masteron is the injectable form of proviron, but the compounds chemical names are different, but i see this mentioned by knowledgable people quite often now, there effects are similar but different at the same time

can anyone clarify

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22 Apr 2010 23:31 #43075 by Yohimbe
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Rather push the winny to 40 weeks, and up the dose to 150mg/day and you're GTG :) :)

Masteron is 2 methylated form of DHT and proviron is 1 methylated form of dht, so they are very similar.

Practically, proviron, offers virtually no anabolic properties, and only androgenic properties. Mainly used as anti e as it has mild anti e properties, with nandrolene to counter any deca dick problems and with test, as well as anti e, because it has a very high binding affinity for SHBG which binds to testosterone, so using the two together will make the test more potent as less of it will become bound to SHBG.

Masteron offers all these characteristics, but the androgen binding is more potent, so increases in strength and drops in bodyfat are more pronounced and there is some anabolism, although any dht based compound isn't a mass builder.

Masteron is superior to proviron, offers all the benefits, but is just more potent, so dht sides are going to be stronger.
Draw back is its injectable.

Personally don't like masteron, dht is a bit too potent for me, and prefer winstrol. Masteron made me shed hair, uncontrollably horny (cycle with test prop). Didn't really notice any acne issues, but the risk is always there with a potent dht.
But if you can handle all the dht, test prop and masteron makes for an awesone cycle.

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23 Apr 2010 10:19 #43087 by Gearedup
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i am a bit scared winny at that dose and that long might make me too hard, and drop too much bodyfat i am after the menshealth look maybe 80 - 85 kg 9-10% bodyfat you know lol

many thanks for that reply yohimbe explains alot. gonna be running proviron throughout next cycle. i am not to keen on masteron just yet, although i dont suffer hairloss from winny etc, mainly its a compound i would use when bodyfat is in the single digits

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23 Apr 2010 10:55 #43092 by Yohimbe
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Gearedup wrote:

i am a bit scared winny at that dose and that long might make me too hard, and drop too much bodyfat i am after the menshealth look maybe 80 - 85 kg 9-10% bodyfat you know lol

many thanks for that reply yohimbe explains alot. gonna be running proviron throughout next cycle. i am not to keen on masteron just yet, although i dont suffer hairloss from winny etc, mainly its a compound i would use when bodyfat is in the single digits


Funnily enough, I don't suffer hair loss on winny either, but masteron makes me shed. Not sure why really as they are both dht derived compounds.
On masteron I shed hair and the libido goes through the roof-but like really bad-dog next door is still hides in kennel when he sees me :)
But I didn't really notice aggression or strength gains particularly.
Winny doesn't affect my libido that much, and don't shed hair, but my strength increases dramatically and I get a bit agressive, well more moody than anything.
Also get superiour results from winny.
But others will pick masteron hands down over winny. Different strokes for different folks I guess-goes to show there are no hard and fast rules on how your body reacts to different drugs

BTW for any newbies reading this we're joking on the winny, no more than 4 weeks at 50mg per day

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23 Apr 2010 11:03 #43095 by Gearedup
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yes thanks for that disclaimer lol

talking about libido, the worst i suffered was recently, i was on eq test highish doses and had a healthy libido, switched to tren ace and test also highish doses and my libido increased alot.....but........added hg at 5iu everyday .............my word..............that and the combination of tren test i have never experienced anything like that shew.

luckily being off (well hrt dose) for two weeks i can feel a steep drop in libido, and the clen i think is having an effect as well as it makes me feel out of sorts

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23 Apr 2010 11:16 #43100 by Yohimbe
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Still haven't done tren yet-did you have sides on that?

Tren seems a funny compound, some complain of finadick and others say it pushes your libido through the roof.

Never thought a heavy libido would be a problem, but it can be. GF was ready to kick me out the house.

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23 Apr 2010 11:22 #43102 by Gearedup
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same here lol same here , or we would look like that arm wrestler lol

tren you are right funny compound, made me more tense for sure, if you suffer aggression problems in general i would stay far clear of it. i think that also might be the crutch, tense equals stress equals reduced libido ? maybe.

but overall the most potent anabolic i have ever used. not serious mass but strength was good, the biggest side for me was being tense all the time, and snappy like i had pms, stop it and 3 days all good again. i can take 2g test a week and i dont suffer any form of increased aggression.

other than that i didnt experience many more sides, tren cough on a few occasions is very unpleaseant but that was it, my body tolerates the compounds quite well

cant wait to try tren enan on my next cycle in a little under 2 months

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23 Apr 2010 11:47 #43113 by Yohimbe
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Going to man up and give tren ace a go next time around.

I'll have to warn the GF beforehand, maybe she'll organise me some of her friends so she can get some peace and quiet :) Ok, now I'm day dreaming-punching the clown it'll be

Also manage test and dbol just fine, winny is the only thing that ever affected my mood for some reason.

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