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17 May 2010 07:56 #44706 by jacquespa
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Hey Guys,

Long time no smell.

I have a question about a possible cycle that this Huge dude in a gym told me that he is currently using and has used with good results.

I presume this is for a Lean/cutting cycle.

I have my doubts about it and would like to hear what you guys think.

Week 1-12 Test Prop @ 1ml EOD
Week 6-14 Wintsrol @ 50mg EOD

Here is my questions....

1.What would be a good PCT to finish the cycle?
2.Is it OK to use Test Prop for 12 weeks seeing it is a short acting Ester?
3. Would running Winstrol be safe for 8weeks?

Thanks Guys

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17 May 2010 09:44 #44707 by SNOK1986
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Its okay but the winni running it every other day is a no no must run it everyday at 50mg.

I would do test enanthate and winni.

week 1 - 12 > Test enanthate 600mg per week
week 8 - 14 > Winni 50mg per day

run adex .5mg eod thru cycle.

PCT after last tab of winni start PCT

week 15 - 17 > HCG 500iu eod
week 18 - 22 > Tamoxifen ed 20mg

Thats what i would do.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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17 May 2010 10:09 #44712 by jacquespa
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Snok,

That is what I initially thought as well, running test E with a 12 weeker.

But what would the difference be running it with Prop instead of Enantate?

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17 May 2010 10:20 #44713 by SNOK1986
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I personally think Test prop should only be used pre contest and if u not competing test E will be good enough. Test prop just doesnt give u as much water as the long esters hence its used before comps.

Also you will be buying many bottles of test prop as it will run out quickly.

Good cutting diet and the cycle i said will do u wonders - got a mate who did that exact cycle and he looks disgusting (meaning riped fucked)

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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17 May 2010 10:52 #44714 by Empire
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SNOK1986 wrote:

I personally think Test prop should only be used pre contest and if u not competing test E will be good enough. Test prop just doesnt give u as much water as the long esters hence its used before comps.

Also you will be buying many bottles of test prop as it will run out quickly.

Good cutting diet and the cycle i said will do u wonders - got a mate who did that exact cycle and he looks disgusting (meaning riped fucked)


the reason for using test prop for longer durations like pre comp is that longer esters cause estrogen conversion very easily,so with the shorter esters there is not enough time for estrogen conversion and less chance of estrogen related fat gains...

i have good results from equi and prop for 12 weeks... i far prefer prop to any other test...

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17 May 2010 11:27 #44718 by jacquespa
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So for a lean cycle you would use Test Prop with Equi?

and for a cutting you would use Test Prop with Winny?

As for the Prop and Winny would one just use HCG and Kessar for PCT then as snok suggested above?

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17 May 2010 11:30 #44719 by Empire
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jacquespa wrote:

So for a lean cycle you would use Test Prop with Equi?

and for a cutting you would use Test Prop with Winny?

As for the Prop and Winny would one just use HCG and Kessar for PCT then as snok suggested above?



for cutting i like 1 of 2 combinations.

Test prop,NPP,masteron or
test prop tren ace,anavar/winstrol

lean mass,equi test prop is a good one...i just like it to end the last 4 weeks (8-12) with winstrol and proviron to dry out and harden up a bit

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17 May 2010 14:31 #44733 by spike
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Of course cost is also gonna be a major factor here jacquespa.
As much as DJ has set out the ideals, it will be many times more expensive to run prop for 12 weeks than enanthate. So the question reaaly is for you to decide whether the minimilisation of estro effects is worth the extra $$.

100mg of prop EOD will mean a 10ml vial will last you 3 weeks.
600mg of enanthate per week will mean a 10ml vial will last you 5 weeks.
(And the weekly dose will be higher on enanthate, approx 300-400mg vs 600mg per week)
So considering they both cost similar prices the overall price is very different.

Um, but im scared of needles...

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17 May 2010 14:36 #44734 by SNOK1986
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Touche Spike.

I still think a test en and stan cycle with a anti e will be just fine - good diet and cardio will get his goal...cost effective as well.

Thats in my eyes.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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17 May 2010 14:45 #44736 by jacquespa
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Thanks guys

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25 May 2010 21:55 #45163 by THEMAN750
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SNOK WHERE DO YOU STAY

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25 May 2010 22:00 #45165 by Mr Moose
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THEMAN750 wrote:

SNOK WHERE DO YOU STAY


Ha ha... and then??

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25 May 2010 22:07 #45166 by SNOK1986
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THEMAN750 wrote:

SNOK WHERE DO YOU STAY



Why?

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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25 May 2010 22:17 #45167 by Mr Moose
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Snork he is snorking you :crazy

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25 May 2010 22:22 #45169 by SNOK1986
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LOL was gonna say i live at 1 2 fuck u drive. :bounce

PS: happy the old school smilies are back

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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25 May 2010 22:26 #45173 by Mr Moose
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SNOK1986 wrote:

LOL was gonna say i live at 1 2 fuck u drive. :bounce

PS: happy the old school smilies are back


Ha ha would still like to know what this oaks case is?? Why did he ask you where you stay and not me?? i feel left out;)

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25 May 2010 22:32 #45175 by SNOK1986
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Mr Moose wrote:

SNOK1986 wrote:

LOL was gonna say i live at 1 2 fuck u drive. :bounce

PS: happy the old school smilies are back


Ha ha would still like to know what this oaks case is?? Why did he ask you where you stay and not me?? i feel left out;)

Peace


Beacause you are a moose thats why AHHAHAHAHAHA kiddin :nana

He is asking stupid Q's he is prob someone who knows the strict rules here and is just disobeying them to be difficult. :mooning

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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25 May 2010 22:35 #45176 by Mr Moose
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SO??? Look how nicely i am smiling in my profile pic;)

Ha ha ha yea looks like a source searcher hey i smell a ban coming on - been quite a few recently hey! :ban

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26 May 2010 06:38 #45180 by Frikkie
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@theman750 : your first posts were "is anyone there?" and "where do you live?" in all honesty, what did you expect the answers to be??? :hmm

dont get a fright if you see a big black guy with some scary ass eyes offerring you a beer, telling you "we dont ask weird ass questions to stangers! and remember... IM WATCHING YOU...!" :evil:

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26 May 2010 08:58 #45185 by Michael
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... and always keep it real ;)

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