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26 May 2010 18:13 #45263 by Mr Moose
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Bunny:

This thread is very worrying and your answers haven't been addressed in a manner that you have understood>

Listen please post a week by week split of your cycle, taking into account your compounds i will put a simple example below and you say how far off you are otherwise you will be last in translation and mess yourself up.

Cycle:
-Sust, week 1-14, 2ml per week.
-Deca, week 1-12, 2ml per week.
-Letro, week 1-16, 0.25mg ed & tapering off in week 15&16.
-Proviron, week 14-16, 25mg ed.

PCT:
-HCG, 500IU, 3x per week, week 14-16
-Clomid, 100mg for 5 days (beginning week 17) & 50mg for 5 days after that.
-Kessar, 20mg ed, week 18-21.


Again this is a very rough outline and you can add clen ect and you length might be different and whatever but if it is not along these lines and you dont have clomid, kessar and hcg in your drawer then you are off.

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26 May 2010 18:15 #45264 by Mr Moose
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And fuck i hate deca i really think it should be half your test dose for a number of reasons but everyone to their own :whistle:

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26 May 2010 18:45 #45266 by vega5
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For the last couple of hours I've wanted to reply to this topic but I'm really finding it difficult to say something constructive.

I feel that bunny should stay very far away from steroids as even the essential fundamental knowledge is lacking.

Bunny, please look at doing a test only cycle for now with a PCT and then only widen your horizons to include more "exotic" drugs.

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26 May 2010 18:52 #45268 by Frikkie
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North_Boy1 wrote:

Thanks Michael, Vega5 and Bunny....much appreciated.. :nana2

HEY! :cry me too! haha...

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26 May 2010 18:57 #45270 by Bunny
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moose

Cycle
-Sust, week 1-12, 2ml per week.
-Anapolins 1 - 6 50mg
-Deca, week 7-12, 2ml per week.

Not yet letro or proviron

Pct :
Only start asking questions today.
I'll probably use letrozole - but not sure about the dosage as im only at week 7

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26 May 2010 19:00 #45271 by Bunny
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Mr Moose wrote:

Bunny:


PCT:
-HCG, 500IU, 3x per week, week 14-16
-Clomid, 100mg for 5 days (beginning week 17) & 50mg for 5 days after that.
-Kessar, 20mg ed, week 18-21.


Again this is a very rough outline and you can add clen ect and you length might be different and whatever but if it is not along these lines and you dont have clomid, kessar and hcg in your drawer then you are off.

Peace


clomid kessar and hcg? full product name?

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26 May 2010 19:01 #45272 by Mr Moose
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Ha ha i thought that was your interpretation....

You see this is where you have it wrong you infact need a PCT for letro>> otherwise you get estrogen rebound which can infact be far worse than estrogen sides experienced on cycle.

I side with Vega drop the deca and continue on the test for the 14 weeks as i put and follow something along the lines of the PCT i put up> YOU NEED HCG, CLOMID & KESSAR!!!

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26 May 2010 19:03 #45273 by Bunny
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methandienone=clomid ? isnt this used at the beginning of a cycle?

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26 May 2010 19:06 #45274 by Frikkie
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i have to agree with vega about staying away for now. your bf% is also way too high for gear so you will get inferior results and also the possibility of major health problems. but i suppose we are not going to persude you, so other than that a test only cycle will be best and if you really "have" to use the 'exotic' stuff LISTEN TOO MOOSE! you need ALL of those things for pct. good luck man!

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26 May 2010 19:07 #45275 by Mr Moose
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Sorry you posted after me> they all trade under the names i said, i can give you IUPAC names or chemical names but your dealer will laugh;) and i dont know if i can mention pharma companies etc so cant help.

Clomid: Clomiphene Citrate

Kessar: Tamoxifen

HCG: Human chorionic gonadotropin

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26 May 2010 19:09 #45276 by Bunny
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eish vega

thats abit harsh. thats y im here. im reading, earning and asking/ alot of people, educated/succesfull or not has there opinions. I just dont want to waste time or money. I believe its best to do it right from the beginning.

i appreciate all the pointers, and im taking notes

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26 May 2010 19:10 #45277 by Mr Moose
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Bunny wrote:

methandienone=clomid ? isnt this used at the beginning of a cycle?


Ha ha no bru methandienone does not = Clomid it = D-bol;)

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26 May 2010 19:11 #45278 by Bunny
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Thanks Moose

Will get it next week and use as directed.

Thanks Again

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26 May 2010 19:13 #45279 by BB_guy
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Keep reading mate, it takes time to get a decent understanding of anabolics

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26 May 2010 19:18 #45280 by Bunny
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clomid= danabols?

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26 May 2010 19:21 #45281 by Bunny
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BB Guy

its all new to me. the sooner i understand and get to use knoe the combinations aswell as what to use when, then ill be sorted.

I do realise it takes time, thus again thats y i here.

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26 May 2010 19:27 #45282 by Bunny
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Fuck im sucha ...
ok
ok ok

previous post doesn't deserve a reply i know soz!!!!!
Now it starts coming together.

Thanks again Moose

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26 May 2010 19:29 #45283 by Roozer
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Bunny wrote:

eish vega

thats abit harsh. thats y im here. im reading, earning and asking/ alot of people, educated/succesfull or not has there opinions. I just dont want to waste time or money. I believe its best to do it right from the beginning.

i appreciate all the pointers, and im taking notes


Bud fuck money and time IT IS YOUR HEALTH YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT.

Drop deca use the sust, Get you clomid 10 tabs 50mg. get kessar 30 tabs 20 mg. and get HCG go and read what names trade as hcg. It is neccesary.

Do you want to get kids? Do you want low test levels? Do you want to go on TRT treatment? i Guess no. The sides to steroids are real its no myth.

Roids are serious stuff. It needs education. And dedication. Dont abuse bud, i can promise you your body is gonna kak you out after this if you dont follow our advise :noway

Read and ask we will help you

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26 May 2010 19:37 #45284 by Frikkie
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Mr Moose wrote:

Bunny wrote:

methandienone=clomid ? isnt this used at the beginning of a cycle?


Ha ha no bru methandienone does not = Clomid it = D-bol;)

Peace


clomid... dbol... same thing... :P hahahaha...

[IN CASE SOMEONE DOESNT KNOW IM JUST JOKING!!!] :laugh:

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26 May 2010 19:54 #45285 by vega5
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Bunny wrote:

eish vega

thats abit harsh. thats y im here. im reading, earning and asking/ alot of people, educated/succesfull or not has there opinions. I just dont want to waste time or money. I believe its best to do it right from the beginning.

i appreciate all the pointers, and im taking notes

I'm just concerned that you're plunging into something that you're not ready for! Have you already used the Anapolins?

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26 May 2010 20:44 #45289 by jackrabbit1
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Bunny wrote:

moose

Cycle
-Sust, week 1-12, 2ml per week.
-Anapolins 1 - 6 50mg
-Deca, week 7-12, 2ml per week.

Not yet letro or proviron

Pct :
Only start asking questions today.
I'll probably use letrozole - but not sure about the dosage as im only at week 7


What is the Deca for BTW? Couldve save quite a bit by leaving it out completely since it wont do anything in 5 weeks anyway. But you knew that since you studied all the AAS youre taking right?
You Scanned through Anthony Roberts write up but do you understand it and do you know what wont work anymore if you dont follow the correct PCT for YOU?
I'll leave it at that - too much to say, too little space.

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27 May 2010 04:43 #45295 by Fakey_AK
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vega5 wrote:

Bunny wrote:

eish vega

thats abit harsh. thats y im here. im reading, earning and asking/ alot of people, educated/succesfull or not has there opinions. I just dont want to waste time or money. I believe its best to do it right from the beginning.

i appreciate all the pointers, and im taking notes

I'm just concerned that you're plunging into something that you're not ready for! Have you already used the Anapolins?


i also wanna know if u have used the a-bombs?
also was this ur first cycle?
and if u did take the a-bombs, did u use liver support?

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27 May 2010 05:24 #45296 by Bunny
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Thanks guys.

yes to the trade name for the mentioned pct. i search thus d-bol, tamoxifen and so forth

yes to anaps and yes to liver treatment.

im will finnish what im on until 16 weeks with sust and deca thus increasing the deca with 4 weeks. i understand its not a perfect cycle but will do it right with the next 1.

I must admit with the sust and anaps i gained 3 kg (keep in mind i slimmed down on fat) and toned alot.

I also understand that oil is not candy. Training for 2 years and gaining almost shit is frustrating, hence the oil.

again thanks and alternatives,combos and sugestions appreciated. i hate drugs and the oil is my last resort.

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27 May 2010 06:27 #45298 by vega5
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Bunny wrote:

Thanks guys.

yes to the trade name for the mentioned pct. i search thus d-bol, tamoxifen and so forth

yes to anaps and yes to liver treatment.

im will finnish what im on until 16 weeks with sust and deca thus increasing the deca with 4 weeks. i understand its not a perfect cycle but will do it right with the next 1.

I must admit with the sust and anaps i gained 3 kg (keep in mind i slimmed down on fat) and toned alot.

I also understand that oil is not candy. Training for 2 years and gaining almost shit is frustrating, hence the oil.

again thanks and alternatives,combos and sugestions appreciated. i hate drugs and the oil is my last resort.

You're going to need a serious PCT after this one so listen up. Follow doctari's PCT (in PCT section) to the T and go start using HCG now already at 250IU every two to three days while on cycle. Your liver will be fairly roasted after the a-bombs so go get a script from your doc for Legalon two a day and start using it ASAP until at least two months after PCT. Also get some SAMe depending on your pocket you can choose to start using it now or as part of you PCT and preferably run it two months past your PCT.

If you've decided to use Letrozole while on cycle then start using 2-4g Vit C a day and try getting a good multi Vit (Animal Pak or Optimen) and also get some form of joint protection.

Please make sure that your Test dosage is at least 1/3 more than that of the Deca.

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27 May 2010 07:09 #45299 by Empire
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Bunny wrote:

clomid= danabols?


i think i just wet myself

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