Cycle Help

Hi Guys,

Just need some help with this cycle im planning.

Stats
age- 23
weight-93kg
BF-10%

I have done 6 or so privious courses.

im thinking of doing

Sustanon or Test E- 10 weeks at 750mg
Tren E- 8 weeks at 300mg
Equi- 14 weeks at 600mg

HGH- 4iu per day. 5 days on 2 days off
( will run the HGH for 8 weeks before starting the cycle)

Hcg- week 1-10 at 250iu per week. 10-14 at 500iu per week
proviron- week 10 to 14 50mg per day
clomid commence 14 days after cycle at

thanks.

BRO 6 cycles and you are 23? That is really ridiculous, What was your previous cycles?

Jayzuz 6 cycles at 23 i havent even done that many lol

2 max a year for me.

Dont do HCG from week 1, leave it till u get to week 8 run 250iu eod from week 8 until gear cycle is done than start normal PCT.

bud Have you ever used TREN? not to mention tren E.

And dont understand how you worked out your cycle.

Why test only 10 weeks?

Are you gonna run the equi for 4 weeks on its own with no test? Not very wise.

On what week are you planning to start tren E?

Week 1-14 test Ent 850mg
Week 1-14 Equi 700mg

And are you gonna frontload? I would say 50mg of DBOL ED from Week 1-4 will do the trick

yea, i did start a bit young, well really young.

well started at 18 years on 6 weeks sustanon and deca.
but at 18 i did not have the focus i do now. but from 19 years got my focus. should of rather waited till about 25 to start but to late now.

well i cant remember the full cycles but can tell which compounds i have used. tren e, tren a, super tren, sustanon, deca, short esta deca, equi, depo, test prop, win.
all my cycles were closly watched and alot of research done before each.

thanks snok, will run hcg from week 8.

Roozer wrote:

bud Have you ever used TREN? not to mention tren E.

And dont understand how you worked out your cycle.

Why test only 10 weeks?

Are you gonna run the equi for 4 weeks on its own with no test? Not very wise.

On what week are you planning to start tren E?

Week 1-14 test Ent 850mg
Week 1-14 Equi 700mg

And are you gonna frontload? I would say 50mg of DBOL ED from Week 1-4 will do the trick

well was going to run for only 10 weeks as i bloat very easly, and was thinking that the last 4 weeks with equi and proviron would drop water nicely.
i was not going to front load as to the estrogen, but if i take an ai it should help.

list all 6 of your cycles...dude u can do alot with just 750mg of test and 350mg of equi for 15weeks and proper diet,with out the diet u are wasting ur time completely,u have probably run bigger stack before but i think u are going slightly overboard with that cycle....u only using clomid as your pct? hmmm....

If you know the answer why ask the question haha. Get an AI like ADEX or letro run 0.25 ED while on cycle will keep the estro monster down.

Running that equi alone wont benefit. If you dont like the dbol hit the t-bol not that harsh its a little milder. But rather extend the test you can even switch over to test prop. That will bring the water down, still have your strength and will help shedding bf% If the diet is 100% CORRECT as well

even on this dosages you wanna take I suggest a AI is a must

mac wrote:

yea, i did start a bit young, well really young.

well started at 18 years on 6 weeks sustanon and deca.
but at 18 i did not have the focus i do now. but from 19 years got my focus. should of rather waited till about 25 to start but to late now.

well i cant remember the full cycles but can tell which compounds i have used. tren e, tren a, super tren, sustanon, deca, short esta deca, equi, depo, test prop, win.
all my cycles were closly watched and alot of research done before each.

thanks snok, will run hcg from week 8.

so closely watched that u dont remember what u took...u have done so many cycles in such a short period,i think u need to actually go backwards and start fresh dude...

mac wrote:
well was going to run for only 10 weeks as i bloat very easly, and was thinking that the last 4 weeks with equi and proviron would drop water nicely.
i was not going to front load as to the estrogen, but if i take an ai it should help.[/quote]

well the bloating is coming from the high dose test and aswell as too many carbs in your bulking diet,its not any other compound other than test thats making u bloat and u are getting a lot more bloated as i can probably see u are using loads of carbs in the diet...taking a-dex at 0.5mg will control water but its also controlled easily through diet,ask northboy1 i have him on a diet where he is up nearly 10kgs lean,with minimal water...and wont loose much in his pct cos he is not bloated etc...

also just a question,what brands of gear are u using?

so closely watched that u dont remember what u took...u have done so many cycles in such a short period,i think u need to actually go backwards and start fresh dude...[/quote]

well yes i cant remember what doses i was taking at 19 or how long i used it for but i have a book some where with all that has been done, will look for it to say all cycles. i can tell you my previous 3 cycles if you would like?
its not a short period of time, just started at a youg age.
its 2 cycles a year, i dont think that is to much? maybe for my age only.

with some cycles there was a lil to much carbs used, but my diet is clean now and has been for quite some time.
i just really dont like my face bloating, get the nickname chipmunk.
my diet now is
morning (7:30)- bowl of oats, fruit, 50g whey
10:30- 1 1/2 cans tuna with one cup brown rice
1:30-200g chicken, veg, one cup brown rice
4:30- 1 1/2 tuna,cup brown rice
train at 6, with shake afer training
dinner- steak,chicken, or fish and salad and veg and small amount or starch
before bed- 50g whey

pct will be clomid and hcg.

the gear i have used are-
1. Balkan phara- sustanon ( best sustanon i have ever used but cannot get it in SA)
2. organon- sustanon
3. RWR-
4.PGW
5.stealth- short esta deca and super tren
6.nomadlabs

ok with a diet like that dude u wont grow very much even with steroids,u could even grow naturally with a new diet...do u even know how many calories u are consuming?

DJ wrote:

ok with a diet like that dude u wont grow very much even with steroids,u could even grow naturally with a new diet...do u even know how many calories u are consuming?

ok cool, atleast now i know where i will go wrong.well to be honest with this diet i dont know the calories i normally calculate a few weeks before the course i am going to do and what results i would like and add on to the diet. this is just what i am eating at the moment.
would you be able to help me with a diet to get the full potential of the cycle?

i will u can email me dude but i do charge for diets seeing i make weekly adjustments based on goals but u will get the results,i still think u should cut your cycle back to a simple one with a good diet and i bet ur results will be double what u imagined...

ok that is fine, can i grab your email. do you mind if i ask how much you charge?
what cycle would you recommend?

u can get me through the contact us tab at the top of the page,i will run through everything with u via email like price etc...

cycle i am gonna suggest doing a small cycle dude.

week 1-15
0.25mg letro eod or 0.5mg a-dex eod(this is a better option in my mind)
600mg test enanthate or 640mg super test from pgw(this will give u slightly less water)
350mg of equipoise for 10 weeks follewed by 5weeks of 750mg equi (so total of 2 bottle)

week 1-4
40mg dbol daily

week 14-17
40mg winstrol orals daily
50mg proviron daily

week 18-20
500iu HCG eod
50mg clomid ed(30days)
20mg kessar ed(30days)

total needed
100 dbol 10mg tabs
100 winny 10mg tabs
3 bottles super test/test en
2 bottles equipoise
1 5000iu hcg
30 clomid 50mg tabs
30 kessar 20mg tabs
1 bottle lp letro/a-dex

ok great.

thanks for all the help! i will run this cycle you have shown me.
will drop you a mail now.

In my opinion you taking to much gear for your age... I never read this whole thread but did notice DJ saying you can do well on 750mg test and 350mg EQ.

Hell you can do well on 500mg test. Start stacking other drugs when you have a reason too.

The cycle listed is above is perfect for your needs.