Cutter upper

Hey peeps long time no read.

After some research and consideration i have decided on a cycle. The purpose will be to cut up nicely and drop as much bf as possible and maybe add a kilo or 3 of muscle.
Here's my proposed cycle.

Week 1 - 8 150mg test prop eod
Week 1 - 6 NPP 75mg eod
Week 1 - 6 Masteron 75mg eod

Pct

Week 9 clomid 100mg ed split
Week 10 - 12 20mg kessar ed
Week 10 - 12 aromasin 20md ed

Im planning also to do 500iu's of hcg every week threw my cycle. Not sure if i should do this from the start or mid way. Trying to follow doctaris pct. And another thing is it really nessecarry to do 1000iu's eod in pct for week 10 - 12?

Current stats
25y old
78kg
bf 13%
cycle history: sust 500 a week and dbol frontload 40mg

What do u guys think?

ur cycle is a good one,ur diet will need to be 100% spot on for u to cut down and add mass at the same time.

footy54 wrote:

Hey peeps long time no read.

After some research and consideration i have decided on a cycle. The purpose will be to cut up nicely and drop as much bf as possible and maybe add a kilo or 3 of muscle.
Here's my proposed cycle.

Week 1 - 8 150mg test prop eod
Week 1 - 6 NPP 75mg eod
Week 1 - 6 Masteron 75mg eod

Pct

Week 9 clomid 100mg ed split
Week 10 - 12 20mg kessar ed
Week 10 - 12 aromasin 20md ed

Im planning also to do 500iu's of hcg every week threw my cycle. Not sure if i should do this from the start or mid way. Trying to follow doctaris pct. And another thing is it really nessecarry to do 1000iu's eod in pct for week 10 - 12?

Current stats
25y old
78kg
bf 13%
cycle history: sust 500 a week and dbol frontload 40mg

What do u guys think?

It is not necessary in my experience to use 1000iu every second day in PCT unles you are extremely shut down, (deca / tren, etc) your cycle is short and you will be using HCG through the cycle, maybe use HCG into PCT for the first week or around 4 shots / 500iu eod.

DJ wrote:

ur cycle is a good one,ur diet will need to be 100% spot on for u to cut down and add mass at the same time.

dj what diet do u think will be best for my goals. Low carb, keto or carb cycling?

well essentially u need enough proteins to repair and build extra muscle and u need enough energy from carbs and fats to fuel work outs but not to much that u cant loose body fat. u need carbs to grow so that rules out keto, carb cycling can work but dont expect to grow muscle when u are trying to cut...i always suggest doing 1 or the other...

00pump wrote:

footy54 wrote:

Hey peeps long time no read.

After some research and consideration i have decided on a cycle. The purpose will be to cut up nicely and drop as much bf as possible and maybe add a kilo or 3 of muscle.
Here's my proposed cycle.

Week 1 - 8 150mg test prop eod
Week 1 - 6 NPP 75mg eod
Week 1 - 6 Masteron 75mg eod

Pct

Week 9 clomid 100mg ed split
Week 10 - 12 20mg kessar ed
Week 10 - 12 aromasin 20md ed

Im planning also to do 500iu's of hcg every week threw my cycle. Not sure if i should do this from the start or mid way. Trying to follow doctaris pct. And another thing is it really nessecarry to do 1000iu's eod in pct for week 10 - 12?

Current stats
25y old
78kg
bf 13%
cycle history: sust 500 a week and dbol frontload 40mg

What do u guys think?

It is not necessary in my experience to use 1000iu every second day in PCT unles you are extremely shut down, (deca / tren, etc) your cycle is short and you will be using HCG through the cycle, maybe use HCG into PCT for the first week or around 4 shots / 500iu eod.

hey 00pump. The thing is this will be my first time using a 19 nor, so i wanna play it safe. I dont wanna suffer with low libido after cycle for months. So running the hcg 500ius a week from start of cycle and then going one week into pct, should do the trick.

Correct.

DJ wrote:

well essentially u need enough proteins to repair and build extra muscle and u need enough energy from carbs and fats to fuel work outs but not to much that u cant loose body fat. u need carbs to grow so that rules out keto, carb cycling can work but dont expect to grow muscle when u are trying to cut...i always suggest doing 1 or the other...

yeah i get what ur saying, but its not completely impossible i mean if i can just stay at 77 - 78 kg and drop bf to 5 - 7 %, i will be very happy.

DJ wrote:

well essentially u need enough proteins to repair and build extra muscle and u need enough energy from carbs and fats to fuel work outs but not to much that u cant loose body fat. u need carbs to grow so that rules out keto, carb cycling can work but dont expect to grow muscle when u are trying to cut...i always suggest doing 1 or the other...

That's solid advice.

essentially u are trying to burn 5-6kgs of fat and replace it with muscle,i would suggest that u try and do 1 ot the other,its not simple to do that,i mean i have had guys drop BF and put on muscle on diet,its not impossible but i think u should be goal orientated,like get rid of the fat first and then go on your cycle.

Agreed. First get the fat down. You will appreciate the gains more as they will be visible and provide more motivation.

Gains are only seen on a scale if you bf is to high.

at the end of the day u cant flex fat

thanx for every1s input and advibe. Dj i will do as u said and carry on with current program and c if i can get to 6 - 7 % bf in the next 6 - 8 weeks and then go on this cycle. Can i use this cycle then for a clean lean bulk then.

yip u can

DJ wrote:

at the end of the day u cant flex fat

Wanna bet?!?! :laugh: