Mick Hart cycle question

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24 Jul 2010 14:35 #47988 by XyGorf
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Hey All!

This is a great site! I'm so glad that I can ask so many pros for help with juice! I have a quick few questions regarding a sample cycle in Mick Hart's publication "The layman's guide to steroids II". In the publication he gave an "Intermediate cycle" that looks like such:

8 week cycle.
Week 1:
Monday - 250mg Testoviron, 200mg Deca, 3 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Tuesday through Sunday - 3 Dbol, 1 Nolva

Week 2:
Monday - 250mg Testoviron, 200mg Deca, 5 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Tuesday through Sunday - 5 Dbol, 1 Nolva

Week 3:
Monday - 250mg Testoviron, 200mg Deca, 8 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Tuesday through Thursday - 8 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Friday - 200mg Deca, 8 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Saturday through Sunday - 8 Dbol, 1 Nolva

Week 4:
Monday - 250mg Testoviron, 200mg Deca, 10 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Tuesday through Thursday - 10 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Friday - 200mg Deca, 10 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Saturday through Sunday - 10 Dbol, 1 Nolva

Week 5:
Monday - 250mg Testoviron, 200mg Deca, 10 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Tuesday through Thursday - 10 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Friday - 200mg Deca, 10 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Saturday through Sunday - 10 Dbol, 1 Nolva

Week 6:
Monday - 250mg Testoviron, 200mg Deca, 8 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Tuesday through Thursday - 8 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Friday - 200mg Deca, 8 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Saturday through Sunday - 8 Dbol, 1 Nolva

Week 7:
Monday - 250mg Testoviron, 200mg Deca, 5 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Tuesday through Sunday - 5 Dbol, 1 Nolva

Week 8:
Monday - 250mg Testoviron, 200mg Deca, 3 Dbol, 1 Nolva
Tuesday through Sunday - 3 Dbol, 1 Nolva

Totals:
8 x Testoviron 250 Amps
12 x Deca 200 amps
364 x Dbols
56 x Nolvas (if 10mg per tab) ??

My questions are as follows...

1.) Why SO much Dbol? Can this be lowered? I cannot express how badly I DO NOT want bitch tits!
2.) How effective will this cycle really be if coupled with a very clean diet and intense training? and...
3.) What are your personal, professional thoughts on this cycle?

A bit more about me:

I'd like to give a stack like this a go, only, I'd like to lower the amount of Dbol and swop the Testoviron out for Sus 250.

My diet is spot on and my fat percentage is really not high (I'm not exactly sure where it's at). I'm just looking for a little more size.

The last time I used anything was about a year ago (Sus 250 with those heart shaped Dbols as a front load and pregnyl for PCT.) I weigh 102 (My goal is 110/115 with very low fat percentage) at the moment and can easily bench 110 for reps.

Some advice would be greatly appreciated.

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24 Jul 2010 16:04 #47989 by admin
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I don't like cycles made by Mick Hart at all and his stuff is too old school.

Those dosages are too low for someone with previous steroid experience and 8 weeks of deca will not give great results. He also tapers his steroids up and down which is just stupid and ineffective.
You also mention that you don't want Gynecomastia and combining deca with nolva will put you are risk of getting just that.

Instead of fixing his flawed cycle just look at the following for example:

Dianabol @ 40mg per day for 4 weeks.
Sustanon @ 500mg per week for 12 weeks.
Deca @ 350mg per week for 12 weeks.
After 3 weeks start doctari's PCT.

Keep Letrozole or Arimidex on hand incase estrogenic side-effects become out of hand. The sustanon should be injected twice per week, eg 250mg Monday and 250mg on Thusday.

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24 Jul 2010 21:04 #47998 by XyGorf
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Thanks for the reply. I had a bad feeling about all that Dbol and stuff. The last thing I want is to piss blood and grow a set of boobies ;-)

Tell me more about this sample cycle you have suggested...

Do I take the Dbol for 4 weeks then stop and begin with the Sus for 12 weeks, then stop with the Sus and begin with the Deca for another 12 and then do PCT?

Or do I use the Dbol for 4 weeks and then use the Sus and the Deca together for 12 weeks and then PCT?

I know that may seem a really stupid question and to be honest, just typing it (and doing the math) makes me feel like a stupid prick. I just want to get it right.

Also, is Pregnyl the recommended product for PCT on such a cycle? Or would I be using the Letrozole/Arimidex for that?

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24 Jul 2010 22:34 #47999 by Fakey_AK
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Hey bud

This is what admin meant:

Week 1 - 4 dbols 40mg ed
Week 1 - 12 Sust 250 twice a week
Week 1 - 12 Deca 350mg deca a week

After 3 weeks pct. To get a better understanding about pct go check out the doctaris pct protocol in the pct section. Pct normally consists of hcg, kessar and clomid.

Is this ur first cycle? If so a straight test and dboll cycle would do u fine.

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25 Jul 2010 07:17 #48000 by XyGorf
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Thanks for clearing that up for me Fakey_AK!

All in all, this would be my third time using. So I guess admin is correct in saying that it's time to up the dosages.

Thanks for the replies guys, I think I'm on the right track now. Will be sure to check out the doctaris pct protocol.

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