Testoviron depot and Nomaviron 300, HELP!!!!!

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20 Aug 2010 16:40 #49164 by BL1KS3M
Help, I have the following

10ml Testoviron Depot 250mg
10ml Nomaviron 300mg

Both are testosterone enanthate, but how good will these 2 work together?
I have injected a few things in the past, and usually inject in piramid cycle:
week 1: 1 ml each
week 2: 2 ml each
week 3: 3 ml each
week 4: 2 ml each
week 5: 1 ml each
week 6: 1 ml each.

Can anyone give me good reason for better injection ways, and does anyone know if this is a good product together?
I heared it gives alot of water retention....
HELP ME PLEASE

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22 Aug 2010 12:58 #49186 by Empire
do not pyramid.... run the same dose for 10weeks. do 1ml of each for 10 weeks.longer periods of time is better with long ester tests such as enanthate. if u dont want water retention clean up the diet and also add in either proviron or arimadex into the cycle...

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22 Aug 2010 13:05 #49189 by BL1KS3M
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o oky, thx for the reply DJ,
so do u think I should use these 2 together or not?
coz it;s what I have now, and can either start now, or wait and buy something else to mix with them?
But wouldn't my body getr use to the 1ml of each a week?
only once a week, of injection of twice a week?
I read the esters are not alot, so in goes lost quickly, so its better to enject twice a week then?

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22 Aug 2010 13:10 #49190 by Empire
bud test enanthate has a long half life so its not in and out quickly,it takes about 2 weeks. no your body doesnt get used to the same dosage,it keeps blood levels more consistent... do 1 ml of testoviron on a monday,and 1ml nomaviron on a thursday.they are both testen so u wont have any problems.

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22 Aug 2010 13:27 #49191 by BL1KS3M
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thanx alot DJ, ur seriously helping me alot here hey..
so u agree to rather keep both,and inject them, coz the reason I'm asking as u said they both the same, both are enanthate... and I know its better to stack... but stacking with the same, will it really help, or not that much...
coz maybe thinking then of swapping the nomaviron for sustonin....?
thx again budz

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22 Aug 2010 14:21 #49194 by juiced169
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Dude sustonin is just a blend of different tests the idea behind that is the fast acting ones kick in first then the slow ones. Sustonin is very over rated in my opinion and you would get just as good results with a single ester like what you got. Mixing the two you got is fine i would not call it staking as they are both the same shit by taking both of them you are just increasing the weekly dose of test. If you really want to stack something with it i would recommend some deca about 300mg a week for the duration of your cycle. This is a good drug to use when you are new to taking juice. You could opt for the pharma grade gear it is made by organon from pakistan 1 amp gives you 100mg or get a underground lab one these are generally dossed higher i think the pgw one is 350mg per ml.

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22 Aug 2010 14:28 #49195 by juiced169
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oh yeah as dj said dont pyramid it is a waste of time. That is very old school and things have changed alot since the days the guys used to pyramid. Who ever told you to pyramid is still living in the dark ages. You get better results keeping you dose high and constant througout the cycle.

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22 Aug 2010 14:40 #49196 by BL1KS3M
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thx Juiced...
But my opinion on deca is; its a local thing, yeah it works, but not on all, I get no reaction fron deca's, accept for getting hard... no bulking at all, and alot of kidney pain..
but thx hey..
Not really new to juices, just new to these 2, know it,just neva tried it before...
thx alot dude...

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22 Aug 2010 20:54 #49201 by spike
I trust that you are meaning you've done a proper cycle including deca and a test? By the way what exactly were your previous cycles? Interested to know as some of your ideas are pretty antiquated.
Deca is very good at adding bulk, but it needs to be run with a decent dose of test. Also its dose needs to be within certain limits. And remember both those enanthates you have are the exact same thing, just different brands...

Um, but im scared of needles...

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23 Aug 2010 02:36 #49203 by Fakey_AK
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Hey bud

Sustanon is great if u inject it eod, that way u get the real advantages from it. i would also like to know ur previous cycle history..."Compounds and dosages used"

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23 Aug 2010 06:39 #49206 by juiced169
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Hey bud if you dont dig deca dont know why not as it is pretty good and one of the cleaner steroids out there by that i mean not such hectic side effects as some other compounds. I personally like equipoise its not much of a bulk steroid but you put on quality gains not much water and its alot easier to keep the gains you put on. Only thing here is you need to run it for a bit longer than normal i would say 12 weeks is the min. If you are just looking for serious bulk look at some anapolan 50mg every day. This is the strongest oral you can get. You get very bulky with this compound and fucking strong. The sides are hectic as well you get headaches and it knocks you liver bad so some liver tabs are a must also you can only be on this for 4 weeks and 6 weeks max but i would not recommend that long.

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24 Aug 2010 06:58 #49265 by BL1KS3M
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@ Fakey and Spike: Thx guys...Here is my cycle history.
I started injecting about 3 years ago, so this aint alot but ja...
I have been gyming for 5 years now.
I started with depotrone my first time, and saw incredible gains, I even saw it in my face.
2nd Depotrone & dbol & deca 100/99
3rd Depotest 250 & nomatest
4th Aquatest & stanezol (both waterbased) here I picked up 10 KG in 8 weeks months... its was 20ml each.
5th Test cyp & napelins and sustonin 250..

I saw that these naps make u freakishly strong, but u don't keep strenght at all afterwords, and got abit of kidney pains with them.

@ juiced- thx alot bud, I have seen one of my friend on that Equipoise, and that stuff gave him good gains, and he was only on that... so I believe it works, but I read it was more of making a person's muscles hard...
So ja, I haven't tried the deca 300 or 350 yet, but as I see now everyone is prescibing it, so I trust it would work... Maybe try it afterwords.
I'm looking atr maybe injecting this cycle for 10 weeks, but after week 3 I will be adding sustonin 325mg/ml to it... I saw people on the 325 mg and damn, that stuf works brilliant...
thanks alot again guys, I appreciate this alot.

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