Cycle for model

I've signed with an agency who pretty much said that I have to add a bit more bulk but more specifically rip.
I've been looking at Liquid pharma's t-bol and anavar. High anabolic/ low androgenic ratios as I dont want to deal with hairloss ad acne. Any advice on what i should stack up on and cylce?

Welcome,
First we need to know more about you. Age, Stats, time training, diet (in detail). I am asuming you have not used before, start reading, plenty info on this site. Research, research, research...
Forget orals only... more on that when we have more info...

I've messed around with juice when I was in High-school, probably not the smartest thing to do but I stacked 20 mg dbol oral with 30mg winny oral (nomad) for 4 weeks.

I've also Cycled 4 weeks of anavar at 30-40mg (nomad) In first year without a consistent diet, and it seemed to work.

I have acknowledged the fact that I have done wrong in not doing enough research and not asking for enough advice and alI I hope is that through this forum I can correctly construct a proper cycle so as not to repeat my past indiscretions.

Age: 21
height: 6"3
weight: 88kg
Very prone to MBP
Background:
Just so one can understand what my body has been through.I was running 800m for Boland in 2005 and 2006, after this is where I started experimenting. Bulked from 76 to 91 (dbol/win). Rowing in university league from 2007-2008. Since then I've been an average gym rat.

My diet :
1) special K or oats + Iso whey by biogen + coffee
2) 500 ml flavored yoghurt
3) Iso whey
4)crackers and a half tub of cottage cheese
5)Usually a pack of chicken breasts and spinach or Bolognese or Ostrich goulash with 2 caramelized onions.
6) Iso whey with milk and peanut butter
Throughout the day I eat peanut butter and bananas whenever I crave for something sweet.

u dont need a cycle u need a new diet!

If you are going to do a cycle, you are going to have to be careful not to put on too much size. Your modelling agency is not going to like too much bulk so you will have to stay away from test and possibly stick with a DHT derivatives like Anavar, Masteron, Winstrol, Proviron etc.
Like DJ said, you need to sort out your diet before you consider doing a cycle. I mean how do you expect to get ripped when you are eating half a tub of cottage cheese every day. I'm sure you will be able to gain the physique your are looking for just by changing your diet.

Alot more protein and Good fats!!

Training routine??

STUARTF wrote: If you are going to do a cycle, you are going to have to be careful not to put on too much size. Your modelling agency is not going to like too much bulk so you will have to stay away from test and possibly stick with a DHT derivatives like Anavar, Masteron, Winstrol, Proviron etc.

Possible problem with the DHT derivatives are hairloss.

@chriswick, is your mother's father bold? If so, then you have a problem... if not then you are relatively safe.

i'm stuffed oh well... like the same the older you get the hair starts going backwards, eg: your reseeding hair line goes backward and that hair goes down your neck and back... haha.

Yup Mothers dad Is bald so I want to stay away from aromatizing steroids.
Tried out my new diet today.
I'm planning on purchasing 100 (20mg caps) of anavar from Liquid-pharma , So thats 2000mg. Should I stack it with Tbol, or keep it to Anavar only? But one shouldn't stack 2 orals? I've heard so many good ratings for Tbol I want to at least try it at some point. I found an interesting relevant thread about a fitness models cycle.

forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=187926

Week1: VAR 20mgs
Week2: VAR 20mgs
Week3: VAR 40mgs
Week4: VAR 60mgs
Week5: VAR 60mgs
Week6: VAR 40mgs
Week7: VAR 20mgs
Week8: VAR 20mgs
Week9: PCT
(with good diet, CLA and alpha lipoic acid)

Any thoughts?

chriswick wrote: Yup Mothers dad Is bald so I want to stay away from aromatizing steroids.
Tried out my new diet today.
I'm planning on purchasing 100 (20mg caps) of anavar from Liquid-pharma , So thats 2000mg. Should I stack it with Tbol, or keep it to Anavar only? But one shouldn't stack 2 orals? I've heard so many good ratings for Tbol I want to at least try it at some point. I found an interesting relevant thread about a fitness models cycle.

forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=187926

Week1: VAR 20mgs
Week2: VAR 20mgs
Week3: VAR 40mgs
Week4: VAR 60mgs
Week5: VAR 60mgs
Week6: VAR 40mgs
Week7: VAR 20mgs
Week8: VAR 20mgs
Week9: PCT
(with good diet, CLA and alpha lipoic acid)

Any thoughts?

Aromatizing steroids will not necessarily cause baldness, because estrogen has nothing to do with hairloss... estrogen might even have to opposite effect in this case, but you still want to keep estrogen under control to avoid other side-eefect that might give you a hard time.

Rather avoid DHT derivatives like Anavar, winstrol, Masteron, proviron ect.

That Anavar cycle will not do and don't stack more than one oral unless you have experience. You can use propecia (finasteride) to counter the DHT, but then it becomes complicated.

I don't really know what cycle to recommend to you since I have no trouble with hairloss and actually don't even care if they fall off, because I shave my head sometimes anyway.

Then of course there is finasteride(Fincar 5mg). My training partner has hairloss issues and has been on 1mg/day for the last year. No hairloss and his cycles have been relatively heavy.
Test/Deca/EQ over the last year.

Word of caution here. There have been cases where this drug impacted sexual performance quite drastically. My friend has reported only positive things.
I used it for my prostate on one cycle but got scared and stopped. Proper research and an informed choice to make here - AGAIN.

chriswick wrote: Yup Mothers dad Is bald so I want to stay away from aromatizing steroids.
Tried out my new diet today.
I'm planning on purchasing 100 (20mg caps) of anavar from Liquid-pharma , So thats 2000mg. Should I stack it with Tbol, or keep it to Anavar only? But one shouldn't stack 2 orals? I've heard so many good ratings for Tbol I want to at least try it at some point. I found an interesting relevant thread about a fitness models cycle.

forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=187926

Week1: VAR 20mgs
Week2: VAR 20mgs
Week3: VAR 40mgs
Week4: VAR 60mgs
Week5: VAR 60mgs
Week6: VAR 40mgs
Week7: VAR 20mgs
Week8: VAR 20mgs
Week9: PCT
(with good diet, CLA and alpha lipoic acid)

Any thoughts?

I ran a similar cycle a month or two ago, however I ran Var at 50mg/day for 8 weeks and also combined proviron at 40mg/day throughout. I also ran clen and T3 and was on a keto-diet. My results were probably exactly what you looking for. I got extremely ripped and vascular and gained some quality lean dry muscle. I can honestly say that my results were 80% attributed to the strict keto-diet and training program.
I don't recommend taking t3 if you haven't had experience with it. You have to be so careful messing around with chemicals that alter your natural hormone levels like your thyroid, & testosterone/estrogen for that matter.
If you decide to run the anavar cycle I can't see any reason why you would taper up/down the doses. Rather start at 50/60mg and maintain this dose every day throughout. Also var takes at least 6-7 weeks to kick in properly so it will probably be better to cycle for 10-12 weeks. You could use the T-bol as a frontload to get blood levels up but this is entirely up to you and your budget. If you're taking it just to increase libido, I think proviron would be a better option. For PCT you can use nolva only, no need for HCG.

"That Anavar cycle will not do" How so?

Stuartf, Can you give me more detail about your cycle and diet ect.. You see I have to be in form in about 13 weeks. Anavar, proviron, clen, nolva and maybe some finasteride sounds good? Hmm how do we structure this. Yes I think my budget wont go further than 8 weeks.

Having delved further into research, I have found that finasteride doesn't show evidence of halting a receding hairline? Thats where i really have to look out. Was your friends successful with preventing a receding hairline?

"Both Propecia and minoxidil work best in men who are losing hair on the top of their heads (instead of a receding hairline or frontal hair loss)."

I used propecia in the last cycle and yes it really does help. Ive come off the cycle pretty well and recovered pretty good as well but I have been reading more and more posts on different medical sites with guys having MAJOR issues after even few weeks of propecia usage. Some dude was on propecia for 6 weeks and now 4 years later still has issue with errections and all kind of liver issues believe it or not.

chriswick wrote: "That Anavar cycle will not do" How so?

Stuartf already answered that:

Rather start at 50/60mg and maintain this dose every day throughout. Also var takes at least 6-7 weeks to kick in properly so it will probably be better to cycle for 10-12 weeks.

chriswick wrote: Having delved further into research, I have found that finasteride doesn't show evidence of halting a receding hairline? Thats where i really have to look out. Was your friends successful with preventing a receding hairline?

"Both Propecia and minoxidil work best in men who are losing hair on the top of their heads (instead of a receding hairline or frontal hair loss)."

When you are big, you don't need hair.

admin wrote:

chriswick wrote: Having delved further into research, I have found that finasteride doesn't show evidence of halting a receding hairline? Thats where i really have to look out. Was your friends successful with preventing a receding hairline?

"Both Propecia and minoxidil work best in men who are losing hair on the top of their heads (instead of a receding hairline or frontal hair loss)."

When you are big, you don't need hair.

Hahahahaha!

I think that with the Finasteride you should monitor you vitals. I do anyway. Liver/Cholesterol/RedBlood etc. I also have a sonar of all the organs and aaorta etc. etc etc.
I had absolutely zero problems comming of it. And seriously..... would they keep it on the shelves if these arent just isolated cases with maybe pre-existing conditions?

chriswick wrote: Stuartf, Can you give me more detail about your cycle and diet ect.. You see I have to be in form in about 13 weeks. Anavar, proviron, clen, nolva and maybe some finasteride sounds good? Hmm how do we structure this. Yes I think my budget wont go further than 8 weeks.

I don't see how finasteride can help with a DHT derivatives. It stops from the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone. I would see it as a pointless objective if you taking DHT.

And the answer is... Shave your head
Im with admin on this, who needs hair

spike wrote: And the answer is... Shave your head
Im with admin on this, who needs hair

Easy to say when you are a slap-head! :lol: :lol:

chriswick wrote: Stuartf, Can you give me more detail about your cycle and diet ect.. You see I have to be in form in about 13 weeks. Anavar, proviron, clen, nolva and maybe some finasteride sounds good? Hmm how do we structure this. Yes I think my budget wont go further than 8 weeks.

This would be a possible cycle:

Week 1 - 8: Anavar 50mg/day (60mg/day for 10 weeks would be better)
Week 1 - 10: Proviron 40mg/day
Week 1 - 8: Clen 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off - tapering up from 40mcg to 120mcg
Week 7 - 10: Nolva 40mg/day

You will have to speak to DJ about getting a diet that will be structured around your body stats and goals. He charges a small fee but it will be well worth it. You can contact him on the contacts page.

Goodluck bro.

I will contact DJ for the diet. Okay so from a hairloss point of view it would be better to run tbol with finasteride? I remember having a bit of hair shedding form anavar.

Thanks Stuartf so
Week 1 - 8: Tbol 50mg/day
Week 1 - 10: Proviron 40mg/day
Week 1 - 8: Clen 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off - tapering up from 40mcg to 120mcg
Week 7 - 10: Nolva 40mg/day

chriswick wrote: I will contact DJ for the diet. Okay so from a hairloss point of view it would be better to run tbol with finasteride? I remember having a bit of hair shedding form anavar.

Thanks Stuartf so
Week 1 - 8: Tbol 50mg/day
Week 1 - 10: Proviron 40mg/day
Week 1 - 8: Clen 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off - tapering up from 40mcg to 120mcg
Week 7 - 10: Nolva 40mg/day

Looks ok to me. Maybe also take some milk thistle to help your liver.