Tren Ace, Winny, Test Prop & T3 cycle

Hi guys.

Whilst doing a bit of research on a planned up and coming cycle I came across an artilce that is almost identical to my cycle. I was thinking of a Winny, Test Prop and T3 cycle but am now interested in adding the Tren Ace to the mix as well.

Below is a quote from the relevant article i stumbled upon:


"A good choice to stack with tren in a cutting cycle is Winstrol. Winstrol has a low binding affinity to the AR and thus will act in your body in vastly different ways than the Tren (i.e. in non-receptor mediated action). In addition, Winstrol is a DHT-based drug and Tren is a 19-nor& throw in some Testosterone (prop), and you´ll have a cutting cycle which takes advantage of all 3 major families of Anabolic Steroids (Testosterone, 19-nor, and DHT), as well as vastly different AR-binding affinities and mechanisms of action.

Ironically, even though Tren is an excellent contest prep drug, it lowers your thyroid level(23), and this raises prolactin. I recommend taking T3 (25mcgs/day) along with your Tren to avoid elevating your prolactin too high via this route."


If possible may I have ur inputs on the following please:

1. Your views on the quoted text above?
2. Dosages and duration of cycle intended?
3. Oral or injectable version of winny?

thanx

Ja bro thats pretty much what you should do ,your PCT though should be very agresive take a look at this PCT bud it's what youre gonna need after your cycle,the tren causes a huge suppresion of natural testosterone levels and shuts down your HPTA rather quickley.Begin the PCT when the half life of your longest roid is reached.I would much prefer to use injectable winny that oral[because of your liver being hammered, remember that winny (oral) has the highest toxicity mg per mg than d-bol so in other words it is more harmfull than d-bol and people reccomed that d-bol be tacken for 3 to 6 weeks max,just take on shot(winny) in the morning and get the Illuim Stanazol 50mg/20ml it doesn't hurt after you inject it. I would keep the cycle below 10 weeks because cutting cycles are shorter than bulking cycles. Use 50mg's of Tren per day and 75mg's per day of winny and 50mg's every second day with you test Prop to make it last a bit longer.

Hey MCJ

Check out this thread, I've posted my cycle there - same as what you planning: prop, tren, winny, t3. I'm also running proviron, clen, heat and HGH.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/4-cycle...inions-on-next-cycle

That article you posted is spot on. The 19-nor (tren ace) will shut you down significantly so it is important to run a testosterone with it. You will want to keep the dosage of the prop similar or slightly more than the tren dosage to keep a healthy libido.

Have you used tren before? Just be careful because some people suffer really badly from the sides. Like Netro says "You don't want to wake up every night screaming like a girl".

I'm one of those guys.. Tren for me is a big no no... Wish I could handle it like others...

Hey oopump can you just quickly explain to me why some guys can take tren and other can't ,i haven't tried clen yet but i'm going to what are your reccomendations about safely using tren?Shot bud.

Thanx for the input guys.

Im pretty much still interested in the cycle i mentioned above. However what if i do the following rather?

week 1 - 6
1000mg Sus / week
80mg Tren Ace EOD

Week 6 - 12
Test Prop 150mg EOD
Mast Prop 100mg EOD (Dnt want winny to dry out joints)
T3

Looking forward to more info from u guys.

thnx

:dry:

So what was the consensus on the T3 while on Tren? In normal human language please.

Hope this helps a bit Vegas. Quite difficult to find info regarding ur question on google.

"Ironically, even though Tren is an excellent contest prep drug, it lowers your thyroid level(23), and this raises prolactin. I recommend taking T3 (25mcgs/day) along with your Tren to avoid elevating your prolactin too high via this route."

Extract from Steroid.com

Nicely put MCJ I would use a prolactin lowering drug too and that will really help to give you that ripped look...

Tnx Pump

Could u take a look at my question above relating to the Tren Sus frontload?

MCJ wrote: Hope this helps a bit Vegas. Quite difficult to find info regarding ur question on google.

"Ironically, even though Tren is an excellent contest prep drug, it lowers your thyroid level(23), and this raises prolactin. I recommend taking T3 (25mcgs/day) along with your Tren to avoid elevating your prolactin too high via this route."

Extract from Steroid.com

Thanks MCJ! I'm starting Tren tonight and luckily is still have a bunch of Axio T3 at home.

vega5 wrote:

Thanks MCJ! I'm starting Tren tonight and luckily is still have a bunch of Axio T3 at home.[/quote]

No Prob bud

hmm.....no replies to my sus question?

:pinch:

Hmm, why not do the Sustanon up till week 10 then follow the last 2 weeks with Prop ?

I also find any DHT derivative steroid drys you out so using Masteron wouldn't change that and that you need to supplement with Omega 3/6/9 at 9000mg per day.

Many ways to skin at a cat and I don't see yours as a bad idea.

Sweeet

thanx pumper.

So altough i will be running t3 and or winny after week 6, what would this cycle be classified as?

Hmm, I don't really make a classification to a cycle... Either I eat X way to look like Y or I eat A to look like B

I feel, you can use this as a very lean cycle depending how you structure your diet or you can blow up...

Cool mate. Appreciate it.

Guys on the maintenance dose of t3 25mcg. lets say axio t3 tabs chopped in half. What is the protocol to use with the tren, if you run tren on 200mg for 5 weeks you hit the t3 straight through your tren cycle or take the 2 weeks on one week off and again 2 weeks on?

why would you do 2 weeks on 1 week off of t3?

well wont the thyroid take strain and become unactive due to long periods of use even on low doses. Or am i totally uninformed on the use of t3 haha

id rather run it for 6 weeks straight. Not much longer though. Think a weekly on off cycle could stuff ur thyroid more this way.

Thats just my 2c

Mcj wats your pct look like and are you using an
Estrogen on cycle I am going to use tren e test e
N winny n I have no idea on pct and anti estrogen




Thanks I will be greatful for your advice

Anti estrogen

shaun g wrote: Mcj wats your pct look like and are you using an
Estrogen on cycle I am going to use tren e test e
N winny n I have no idea on pct and anti estrogen




Thanks I will be greatful for your advice

On a cycle like this I'd suggest a full comprehensive PCT, Clomid, Nolva and HCG.

Please elaborate on your cycle please. Dosages, length of cycle and when you are going to use the winny?

MCJ sorry for the jack