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22 Sep 2010 09:14 #51213 by Romp3L
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Hi Guys. Im gona (try) attach a cycle I worked out. I am very proud of it and think it will give max results. Please check it out and let me know.

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22 Sep 2010 09:31 #51214 by Mr_SA
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Why do Deca 100 @ 300mg p/w? and then deca300 @ 300mg p/w??
What is Epifasi?
Your Test should be higher than your Deca... up the Nomaviron, or maybe use Test E.
5 weeks of Equi is not going to give you the results you want... it take 10 weeks to fully get into the system, i think.

I am currently on Deca & Test E for 10 weeks, and then Test Prop and Masteron Prop for 4 weeks to harden everything up and then PCT.

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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22 Sep 2010 09:39 #51215 by Romp3L
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The deca 100 is a fast acting deca. Deca 300 takes 2-3 weeks to get into the system and deca 100 has a couple of days. Like a front load with deca100 to get the juices flowing if u get what im saying.
Last time i did a bulk. I was on 300mg test a week and got good results. Doubling it is good me thinks.

Epifasi is a HCG.
Nomaviron is 250mg Test E per ml + 50mg Test prop per ml.
Ther was Tren in ther at the end,but the costs are too much for the cycle as it is and i changed it a bit.

Its 600mg Deca then for a couple weeks and then over to Eq. I do like Eq alot and just had to put it in again. The Eq wil take 2-3 weeks to be fulle active in the body,if im correct.
I could stretch it out a bit,but then i will have a long esther too close to the end of the cycle. And i can only work on 12 weeks for a cycle. Cant stretch it more,.
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22 Sep 2010 09:47 #51216 by 00pump
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If you going to be using EQ drop the deca and use the EQ from day 1. The best results of EQ are seen in week 8/10, closer to 10.

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22 Sep 2010 10:02 #51217 by Romp3L
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Do you think to maybe run 300mg deca and 200mg Eq together for 10 weeks?

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22 Sep 2010 11:40 #51221 by 00pump
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No don't combine the two. Use 500mg EQ for 12 weeks

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22 Sep 2010 15:19 #51240 by Fakey_AK
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00pump wrote: No don't combine the two. Use 500mg EQ for 12 weeks

Why not use both compounds in one cycle?

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22 Sep 2010 15:26 #51241 by jackrabbit1
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Use 500 deca!

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22 Sep 2010 16:45 #51242 by admin
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Romp3L wrote: The deca 100 is a fast acting deca. Deca 300 takes 2-3 weeks to get into the system and deca 100 has a couple of days. Like a front load with deca100 to get the juices flowing if u get what im saying.
Last time i did a bulk. I was on 300mg test a week and got good results. Doubling it is good me thinks.


Deca is Deca and they are all the same. Deca 100 is not faster acting than Deca 300!

The "faster acting" Nandrolone is called NPP or Nandro-Prop.

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23 Sep 2010 06:44 #51249 by juiced169
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@admin what do you think about adding deca and equi in the same cycle some guys i have spoken with say it works well while other say it is not needed?

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23 Sep 2010 07:09 #51252 by 00pump
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Hmm

Have you run both compounds on their own? If so which did you prefer? Don't flood your receptors with extra compounds as sub par doses. 200mg of EQ is a waste of time and 300mg of deca is too.

Chose 1 or the other and run it at around 600mg per week. If you looking for more 'bulk' and don't mind holding a bit of water and don't suffer from those nasty nandrolone sides and don't mind complicating PCT then by all means.

If you looking for a drug that is safer and that will give you a steady lean gain which will help you keep your gains and for those that have difficulty getting in the food they need for the day look at using EQ.

Don't waste your time stacking both.

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23 Sep 2010 07:28 #51253 by STUARTF
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Deca and EQ are not known to be a synergistic combination.... you'd be much better served running either or, EQ is far superior IMO.

By the way 00pump, I went to see Dr Fyfer the Chiro, and he is excellent. Thanks for the recommendation.

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23 Sep 2010 07:51 #51254 by 00pump
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Hey, tell them I refered you... So I can get my next session free! :D ye, he is clued up big time :D

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23 Sep 2010 08:25 #51259 by Romp3L
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admin wrote:

Romp3L wrote: The deca 100 is a fast acting deca. Deca 300 takes 2-3 weeks to get into the system and deca 100 has a couple of days. Like a front load with deca100 to get the juices flowing if u get what im saying.
Last time i did a bulk. I was on 300mg test a week and got good results. Doubling it is good me thinks.


Deca is Deca and they are all the same. Deca 100 is not faster acting than Deca 300!

The "faster acting" Nandrolone is called NPP or Nandro-Prop.


..ye,thats what i meant :D

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23 Sep 2010 08:28 #51260 by Romp3L
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Ye, i think im gona do the Eq on its own then at 2 ml a week. 250mg/ml Alpha Pharma gona be needed me thinks.
I see nomad only has the 200mg/ml Eq.
I do prefer Eq over deca. But deca does bulk more mass on in my opinion. Eq is just awesome with the lean gains and vascularity.

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So, that is the only prob u guys could see? THen that cycle is top notch?

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23 Sep 2010 08:29 #51261 by STUARTF
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Haha, Don't think he will know who 00pump is ... but I'll tell him anyway. Going again on Monday (sorry to hijack Romp3l).

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23 Sep 2010 09:36 #51269 by Romp3L
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Silence means that ther is no probs. Would like more info on what the experienced hands think. ie.DJ,Netro and Admin.

Thanks guys.
Going once on on changing to just Eq for 10 weeks at 500mg per week...
Going twice...

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23 Sep 2010 09:46 #51272 by 00pump
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10 weeks is not long enough for EQ, extend to 14-16.

If you looking at rather using a shorter cycle look at using Deca then.

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23 Sep 2010 10:02 #51275 by Romp3L
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I can only do 12 weeks cycle. Stopping at week 10 with long esther so i can pct earlier and get into diet cycle of about 8 weeks...

Eq kicks in the same time as deca.. same esther length..

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23 Sep 2010 10:22 #51278 by 00pump
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Deca kicks in ALLOT quicker than EQ.. EQ only starts working around week 8/10, by that time you stopping the cycle. I used to use Deca for around the first 6 years I used gear the last 4-6 years I have used EQ and can comfortably say my strength comes in around week 8/10 and I hang on to the cycle till week 16.

Are you trying to get the drugs out of your system for testing? If not why not use the EQ right up till contest ? Or if you want add Primo to that, 600mg primo per week?

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27 Sep 2010 08:36 #51403 by Romp3L
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But i have test in ther to help the str gains and also Anapolon. I am not worried so much for str,but the over all effect. I cant run a clean Eq cycle and cant afford running it with test for 20 weeks. I can maybe run it for 2months into my cutting cycle as my last cutting cycle had eq in, but then i will rather use it with Prop or Suspension.
Or wot?

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O, hijacking my own discussion. Just a q pump. U said u had ur girl on a cycle before. Was it sufficient,what would u do different nxt time?

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27 Sep 2010 08:43 #51404 by 00pump
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Hmm, she was using Anavar and was doing a Keto at the same time, she was also using T3 and Clen at the same time.

Hmm, I don't think I would change much at this point, I wouldn't do more than 2 of those cycles a year for her either.

The Keto diet + Clen I don't mind, but T3 and any steroid is a scary thing if things go wrong :)

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27 Sep 2010 12:20 #51468 by Romp3L
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Okay. Thanks man. I just feel kinda bad for her,she diets her ass off and she doesnt get much leaner. SHe stays the same bf. She shrinks a bit in size but bf stays the same. She has been dieting for 5-6months. She lives very healthy and does prefer diet to normal food,but damn. I really want to help her more and she pushed me into giving her steroid advice. I am stil scared bout what she decided to do,but if she increases test levels,she will burn more fat and gain nice muscle. She wants to move from a bikini class to figure and she has the dieting and training down very well.(sometimes better than me). but her results lack.

There is a female cycle. 100mg deca+novadex+winstrol tabs+proviron me thinks is all in it. It is a 8 week cycle.
I told her bout ur girl on var and she liked the idea,but with all the hard work she has been putting in for the last 3 years...she is frustrated to say the least.
What u think pump?

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27 Sep 2010 12:25 #51470 by Empire
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ummm lets see her diet,also dont use hard deca for women,rather use NPP.

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27 Sep 2010 13:22 #51478 by 00pump
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I honestly don't feel steroids would help at all, DJ can check her diet and work with her through the periods her body is becoming stubborn, use some shock therapy (maybe). And then a good fat burner, maybe have her thyroid tested too ?

If you give her diet and training plan, and be 1000000% honest with what cheats she throws in here and there I'm sure we will get her to where she wants quite quickly.

My chick started at 24% bodyfat when I met her, I got her down to around 16 without anything other than a good training program and a proper eating plan. I then gave up being the bad cop and asked DJ to get involved he then got it down to around 12 % with a keto and a supplement suggestion.

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