Proviron at the start of a cycle

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23 Sep 2010 17:53 #51308 by Deadgoat
Proviron at the start of a cycle was created by Deadgoat
Why is it never suggested to start a cycle with proviron?
Its usually said to be used towards the end of a cycle, would it not be beneficial to use proviron whilst still on d-bol at the start of a cycle to counteract the water retention?
Am I missing something here

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23 Sep 2010 18:33 #51309 by 00pump
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I use proviron in most of my cycles from day one. However science has moved on and other more power ai's are on the market

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24 Sep 2010 15:54 #51324 by Fakey_AK
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I also used proviron from day one in my current cycle and luved it. I will from now on always use it in my cycle from the start to finish. So i don't see why not. Suppose it comes down to personal choice

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25 Sep 2010 07:38 #51338 by mrwhite
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I also use it however only from half way through my cycle. But I am thinking of using it from day one on my next cycle now that I see 00Pump does it.

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27 Sep 2010 13:29 #51480 by Netro
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Cost is the main reason.
At the back end it has the same effect of freeing testosterone as oral winstrol. This is when cortisol levels are high and gains taper down.
If you can run it with any compound that causes water retention then do as it will keep the water down.
As an AI, would not do that as guys said there are better ones.
You also try and minimized cycle toxicity and keep orals to a minimum.

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27 Sep 2010 15:36 #51494 by Deadgoat
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interesting posts, just thought there was a scientific reason as to not use it from the start

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30 Sep 2010 09:55 #51851 by t.montana
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Does anyone know if there is any truth in the statement that two proviron and one kessar a day will keep estrogen build up to a minimum ?

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30 Sep 2010 14:44 #51877 by 00pump
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It will keep estrogen under control, however if you are looking at supressing estrogen and not just stop it binding, I would use Adex / Letro.

I find Tamoxifen toxic so I would rather use that just for PCT.

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01 Oct 2010 05:18 #51908 by Deadgoat
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but would that not hamper your gains? Thought you need a bit of estrogen to maximize gains?

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01 Oct 2010 05:56 #51917 by 00pump
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You know, I still can't find any proof to that statement.

Look at it this way.. Guy’s dominant hormone is testosterone and woman’s is estrogen. Estrogen signals the puturity and depending if it's high or low will either boost or lower testosterone.

So yes, you might store 'fat' / 'water' on a cycle when your estrogen levels are higher. However if you are looking for solid gains and looking not to swell up and then shrink down but wanting to keep a dry look through your cycle stage and retain better gains at the end, consider using a low dose of an AI.

Proviron however works differently in that it does aid in estrogen suppression to a point however its plus factor is that it uses up the free testosterone in your body so it's famous to enhance any steroids you currently taking.

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