Funny cycle yet interesting

Hey guys just want your input on this one.

Spoke to one of the guys that competes here in jhb and he swears by this cycle that is very controversial.

He always mixes his gear Axio, PGW and oregon.

All is split in 2 shots weekly

Week 1 - Supertest 960mg, Oregon Sus 250 1000mg
Week 2 - Supertest 960mg, Oregon Sus 250 1000mg
Week 3 - Supertest 960mg, Mastrone 400mg ( mixed ester ), Tren 200mg (mixed ester), Oregon Sus 250 500mg
Week 4 - Supertest 960mg, Mastrone 400mg ( mixed ester ), Tren 200mg (mixed ester)
Week 5 - Supertest 960mg, Mastrone 400mg ( mixed ester ), Tren 200mg (mixed ester)
Week 6 - Supertest 960mg, Mastrone 400mg ( mixed ester ), Tren 200mg (mixed ester)
Week 7 - Supertest 960mg, Mastrone 400mg ( mixed ester ), Tren 200mg (mixed ester)

Week 9 - Start Pct

He stays at this short cycle and if you look at him it is certainly working, But the synergy with the long and short esters is tricky. Isnt the course to short with the long esters to kick in. And Wont the Frontload of a gram of sus 250 be to much. He says he also uses 0.3mg of letro ED and gyno is really minimal.

Supertest is PGW, Mastrone and Tren is AXIO, Sus 250 is OREGON

Inputs?

I'm not sure about the science behind it but I'm sure with all that test you'll reach optimal test levels very quickly by somehow "forcing" the body to adapt.

The rest of the cycle seems fine and you won't know if it works for you if you don't try it.

Did he mention his injection protocol and frequency?

he mentioned Sundays and Wednesdays, And he only rotates his delts, no glute no quads. He still believes that when the first test is injected (sunday) it has to stay dormant in the system with no training and on wednesday is the leg training day when he injects again.

Sounds like an alternative view on the world but it takes all types to make the world go around they say.

2 of the guys that trains with us is going to give this cycle a bash start of Nov. Both have fair amount of gear experience, will let you guys know how it goes results and so forth

Roozer wrote: he mentioned Sundays and Wednesdays, And he only rotates his delts, no glute no quads. He still believes that when the first test is injected (sunday) it has to stay dormant in the system with no training and on wednesday is the leg training day when he injects again.

That is a shitload to inject into a single delt.

Week 1 - Supertest 960mg, Oregon Sus 250 1000mg = 7ml/2 = 3.5ml
Week 3 - Supertest 960mg, Mastrone 400mg ( mixed ester ), Tren 200mg (mixed ester), Oregon Sus 250 500mg = 8 ml/2 = 4ml

So what you have is alternating delts at 3-4ml twice a week?

Ouch!

jip i told the guy how the hell does he survive because for me i can get in max 3ml other wise it gets painfull and the oil leaks out. So i have no idea how he survives, alternating between glutes and delts will be much more feasible. But he is quite a stubborn oke

With the frontload my shots were 4ml EOD. 2ml/delt is max for me. so Both delts, both quads, single shot Glute L then R and start all over again.
Even that got a bit much. Now at 3ml EOD with the same routine it feels ok. I have to move the site up and down for glutes and quads though. If i hit the same spot twice in a row it tend to bleed a bit on aspiration.

okay so the 2 guys that wanted to start this cycle decided to do something completely different, so I took the plunge and started it myself. All axio products. I must say this cycle is really REALLY nice. Better than the 14 week cycle i did in the beginning of the year. i am on Week 5 now and the tren and test is kicking in great. Must say i am very happy with the axio products. I will finish this one as it is stated. going to take a 6 month break after this one, and start this cycle again just with a tweak or two. How would something like this be?

Week 1-10 Sus 975mg
Week 1-5 NPP 600mg
Week 6-10 Tren Enanthate 400mg
Week 6-10 Masteron mixed 600mg
Week 11-13 Test Prop 100mg EOD
Week 11-13 Masterone Prop 150mg EOD
Week 11-13 Tren ace 80mg EOD

Its a total of 8 week max on the tren, i know the border is usually 7 weeks, but it will round up the enanthate ester nicely to the end. On the whole course it wont go over 2 grams. And i am going to try the NPP as a frontload this time and see how it goes.

any comments?

any comments on this?

You do NPP for 5 weeks which is short ester. You then switch to Tren-E which is long?
Whats the point of the NPP?
NPP takes 5 days to exist, while the Tren will take a while to reach optimal levels.
What about that dead spot inbetween?
Why didnt you just continue to 10 with the NPP - you did say you are happy with the progress? Anyway i find NPP getting really great at 7.