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03 Oct 2010 10:53 #52090 by dragon
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I would like to get advice on the following cycle that i am planning on taking to bulk up.It is a 16 week cycle and will be my third cycle.
1) 3 x 1ml Testoviron(250mg/ml) p/w
2) 1 x 1ml Deca(350mg/ml) p/w
3) 4 x Dinabol(10mg/tablet) p/d for first 4weeks
4) 1 x proviron per day for whole course
5) 3iu x HGH per day (continue for 3 months after course)

For my pct i was thinking of taking.
1) 2 x Nolvadex p/d for 5 weeks
2) 1 x Aromasin p/d for 5 weeks
3) 20 iu Pregnyl first 10 days then 10iu for next 10 days

I would like to know if the pct is ok and weather i should also be using Clomid and when should i start my pct.Will it be ok to use HGH and HCG together when they overlap in my pct.

All advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

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04 Oct 2010 08:55 #52139 by Mr_SA
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PCT is started about 10 days after your last shot of Deca.

Deca though for 16 weeks is not such a great idea... keep it to 10 weeks.

Think about changing to:
First 4 weeks:
40dianabol p/d

For 10 weeks:
750mg Testoviron p/w
350mg Deca p/w

For next 4 weeks:
100mg Masteron Prop EOD
100mg Test Prop EOD

HGH will need to be used for at LEAST 6 months to reap the benefits.

You will need to include HCG @ 500iU p/w for the 14 weeks course.

You should include Clomid in the PCT.

Follow the PCT by Doctari for the cycle above.

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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04 Oct 2010 12:09 #52157 by Deadgoat
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Mr SA dont you think that 10 weeks is too short for a deca cycle? Thought 15 weeks was ideal?

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04 Oct 2010 13:45 #52161 by Mr_SA
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I don't think so....
Deca Supress's your natural test very harshly... you cant leave it suppressed for too long!
Equi is the sustance that 16 weeks is recommended.

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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04 Oct 2010 19:21 #52185 by spike
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Hmmm, i disagree. Yes deca supresses your system, but it also takes a LONG time to begin work. If you are worried about over supression then add in some HCG at around week 10. Ideal deca time is 10-12 weeks, but 15 weeks is acceptable. I wouldnt on a first cycle, but if you've used deca before then you should have an idea how your body responds to it. Im currently on week 8 of a 15 week deca and cyp cycle...

Um, but im scared of needles...

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05 Oct 2010 05:29 #52196 by jackrabbit1
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spike wrote: Hmmm, i disagree. Yes deca supresses your system, but it also takes a LONG time to begin work. If you are worried about over supression then add in some HCG at around week 10. Ideal deca time is 10-12 weeks, but 15 weeks is acceptable. I wouldnt on a first cycle, but if you've used deca before then you should have an idea how your body responds to it. Im currently on week 8 of a 15 week deca and cyp cycle...


let me guess - you still dont feel like you are quite there yet? Mine starts around there and really picks up at 12. I'm on Deca/Sust at the mo. Will probably extend to 16 os so weeks.

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05 Oct 2010 07:05 #52201 by Mr_SA
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@Spike:
What are your results like so far?

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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05 Oct 2010 07:22 #52202 by spike
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yeah, i can feel the strength picking up from the test cyp now, but no sign of the deca really kicking in.
Gains have been good, also ran a 4 week dbol frontload (with letro to keep water and bp down). Picked up 5kg during the frontload, and another 2 kg since... So 7 kg up so far, sitting around 84kg, wanna push it as close to 90 as possible.

Um, but im scared of needles...

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05 Oct 2010 07:58 #52205 by Mr_SA
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I am currently on Test E with Deca...
7 weeks in i think.. 3 weeks to go.
Up about 9kg's. Sitting on 89.6 currently... want to get to 92 kg's... but battling to get any more weight on.
At the end of this month, i do Masteron Prop and Test Prop for 4 weeks... just in time for Miller Rock the Boat. Need to try drop as much BF and water as possible before the cruise in those 4 weeks. And then PCT when i get back.

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05 Oct 2010 12:29 #52216 by Romp3L
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Okay, u should redo the pct. How do u mean 10 iu's and so for the pregnyl. There are 1500iu's per 1ml container if im correct. I used 1000iu's EOD for 3 weeks with kessar in my pct and kept most gains. Only water that was lost.
Run Arimidix during cycle and Aromasin after cycle.

And i would run the HGH on 4 iu's ED @ 2in the morning and 2 late afternoon.
How is ur diet gona be? Whats ur bf,weight,length?
Regards

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08 Oct 2010 13:19 #52569 by dragon
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Thanks to everyone for all the help it really is going to help me a lot.I am 6ft and weigh 98kg i want to push my weight to about 115kg i am not sure of my body fat but am not caring any extra weight around the middle and at the moment am caring no extra water (veins are visible in my arms and chest).The dose for the HCG for my pct cycle will be 500iu ed for 10 days and then 1000iu ed for the next 10 days.Am not to sure if it is the correct way to do it.

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08 Oct 2010 13:34 #52570 by dragon
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I am thinking of taking 500iu p/w HCG for the entire course then taking 500iu hcg e/d for 2 weeks after the course before i start a clomid pct.Just would like to find out if this is correct.Thanks

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08 Oct 2010 22:25 #52613 by vega5
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IMO Deca must be run 12 weeks+. PCT needs to be proper. I personally use the following protocol and I really works for me.

7 days: 100mg Clomid
6 days: 50mg Clomid
±21 days: 20mg Kessar

And I start using HCG at 500IU E2D from about two days before my last shot and stop on the day of the last Clomid pill.

Obviously the waiting time between my last shot and the start of the Clomid is dictated by the ester of steroid in my cycle.

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11 Oct 2010 08:13 #52759 by Romp3L
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Yes, i agree with vega. Test ur estrogen and testo levels just before the pct and then after the pct. Costs between R300 and R400 for both tests at an ampath.
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13 Oct 2010 20:08 #53114 by dragon
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Thanks to everyone for all the advice i really appreciate it.

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