Difference between Dbol and Dbol combined cycle

Hi there.

I was wondering why there are guys against a Dbol-only cycle and why it is better to combine
it with testosterone? The reason I ask is because I'm on a tight budget and I want to do proper research before jumping head first into something I basically know nothing about.

Any help or advise will be greatly appreciated.

Well firstly dbol is extremely liver toxic and should thus only be used for 4 weeks.
Secondly the gains from dbol are often largely water retention, meaning that you will lose them as soon as you stop the dbol.

Dbol's role in any cycle is to kickstart the gains, meaning it kicks in quickly (in days) while your testosterone levels peak slowly from injections. Test can take anywhere up to 5-6 weeks to kick in, depending on the ester, and most people are loathe to wait this long for results. Dbol allows you to see results from week 1. But as i mentioned these results are short lasting without following them up with a full length tesosterone cycle.

And lastly, seen as you talking budget here, injectable test is THE CHEAPEST form of steroid. Also PCT costs money, so instead of doin a 4 week dbol cycle then pct you may as well do a 12 week test cycle then pct... More gains for your buck

Thanks bud.

Is there a specific kind of testosterone i should use or is all the same?(If there are different types) I know it might sound like a lame question but I'm new to all of this And how much p/w would you recommend?

Thanks again

There are several different types of test, depending on the ester to which it is bound.

Testosterone propionate is your shortest ester, meaning quickest acting. Also needs to be administered every 2 days. Is most expensive.

Testosterone cypionate is your longest ester, meaning slowest acting. Can be administed as little as once a week. It is the cheapest form of test.

There are several other esters in between, and also several blends of different esters, eg sustanon and supertest.

A starting dose for a first cycle should be 400-500mg per week.

HOWEVER what i have told you here is nowhere near enough, you need to do ALOT more reading before you are ready to even consider taking steroids. There are many other things to consider, such as side effects, post cycle recovery, diet...

Before you take any further steps i suggest you intro yourself properly, give us your age, weight, bodyfat, training experience, diet, goals etc

Age: 20
Bodyfat: about 26% (yes ,I am over weight but i'm not sure how accurate that isbecause I dont have a skin fold caliper )
Weight: 94Kg
Training: About 2 years weight lifting.
Diet: +- 500g meat, fish or chicken p/d
50g Potatoes
4 slices of bread and 1 egg
Goals: Want to burn fat and gain some muscle, but its kinda hard with crap nutrition

Ok, well first things first, you are too young for steroids... You wont be doing yourself any favours by using at this age, rather wait 4/5 years.
Secondly, no offence, but your diet is terible. Im not even goin to begin to comment on specific aspects of it. What i suggest is you speak to DJ on this forum, he is the diet guru, tho he does charge for custom diets. You can reach all the goals you have by simply improving your nutrition. There is no need for steroids at this stage. Steroids should preferably only be used once one has reached their natural peak... You are far from your natural peak. Rather get a good diet and spend the money you would have used for steroids on some of the necessary supplements and food.

Thanks for your advise. It's greatly appreciated! I will make sure I get the right diet and training ASAP. I was kinda worried about using steroids if i wanted to play rugby!

Thanks again.

Dude that diet is crap you aint going to grow on that. 1 egg you mention in your diet how far do you think you going to get on 1 egg i know some guys who are eating 18 eggs a day. Get a diet from dj it will take all your guess work out the picture so imo its worth it. @spike 20 is a bit young but not that bad imo 20 would be the youngest i would reckon one should be should they choose to go this route. I was 20 when i hit my first cycle was the good old depotrone

Ja, after a rugby injury 2 years back I wasn't able to train and my diet went down the drain with it. And now I look like crap! I know it's my fault that I neglected my diet but I was a bit depressed( damn,I sound like a woman!). But I am willing to get my Sh*t straight!

Sowi im new to this site if i wanted to speak to dj about my diet see if its good or needs more work how could i let him know.

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