PCT Advice on my cycle

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19 Oct 2010 08:27 #53450 by djin
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Hi i am currently on this cycle at the moment( i am on the 6th week now ), but would like to know if the pct is correct

8week cycle

deca first 3weeks at 100mg/,4&5 week at 200mg,6-8week back to 100mg.
sus first 3weeks at 250mg,4&5week at 500mg,6-8week back to 250mg.
on 4th week till 8th week proviron 75mg/per day
on 8th and 9th week clomid 50mg/per day

could anyone please let me know if it is okay to start clomid with my last week of cycle or if i should start after the cycle, or is there also another pct i should be taking.

thanks

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19 Oct 2010 08:37 #53453 by Fakey_AK
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Hey Bud

Go read the PCT section, all the info u need and then come back and tell us what u think. Also pyramiding is old school plus 8 weeks is to short for deca.

Whats ur stats


S.note - alot of guys asking about pct lately even tho they already started there cycle and don't know what to do.:huh:

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19 Oct 2010 09:10 #53462 by djin
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Thanks, yes i just went with a beginner cycle that i pulled off from this site, www.anabolicsteroidspharma.com/cycles.htm , and just cut down on the dosage a bit to try and see if it was ok, cause i had a few ppl telling me the dosage is too high and would be a waste.

this is my first cycle.

my weight is at 92kg,bf +-15% height 178cm

will also check the pct section, thanks.

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19 Oct 2010 09:15 #53464 by Fakey_AK
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Ur dosages weren't to high. What im saying is u should have kept them the same and stable.

U would have done fine with 500 test and 300 deca a week, but that said u would have done great with a test only cycle for a first run too.

Interest sake what was ur stats before cycle?

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19 Oct 2010 09:23 #53467 by djin
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after the fast 86kg, 20%bf, and my height is the same :)

also how long should a cycle be, and once cycle and pct is complete how long should one wait before starting a 2nd cycle and should the 2nd one be the same or should i add something more in the mix.

oh yes and 2months before the fast i was on GH and proviron for about month and was at 96kg,+-15%bf after the fast my body weight dropped to 86 and bf went up.

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19 Oct 2010 09:29 #53469 by Fakey_AK
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Cycle lengths depends on the compounds in the cycle. short vs. long ester cycle's.

Time off = Time on plus pct
eg. 12 week cycle plus 5 week pct = 17 weeks to wait till next cycle

As for what to use ur next cycle depends on goals. U can up the test or keep it the same and add another compound.

One month of hgh is a waste.

SH#T that site is horrendous, the cycle's on there are crazy, outdated and downright danderous.

Stick around and read here bud, u'll learn alot more and how to do things safely.

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19 Oct 2010 19:52 #53502 by spike
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Djin it looks like that cycle didnt actually do anything for you, and im not surprised... Its a real mess of a cycle.

1. First cycle should be test alone (ie. Sustanon only)
2. Do not pyramid doses, rather keep them stable throughout
3. The length of that cycle was a bit short to gain much out of it. Deca takes about that long to start working, and sustanon is mainly long esters that kick in late.
4. GH needs to be run long term, we talking minimum 6 months or so to see gains
5. No clomid is not sufficient for a PCT after a deca cycle.


You need to stay away from juice for a while and in that time read everthing this site has to offer. You've done it really wrong the 1st time so now make sure the next time is perfect.

As for your weight and bf% changes those can all be put down to fasting and then resuming eating normally after fasting

Um, but im scared of needles...

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20 Oct 2010 06:33 #53515 by djin
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thanks everyone, for advice, but can someone help on the pct side what should i take then, will nolvadex be suffice or should i take it with clomid.

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20 Oct 2010 06:38 #53518 by 00pump
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Nolva is fine as it's a more pure SERM.

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20 Oct 2010 07:05 #53523 by Romp3L
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Just a q..wtf is up on that site. Give that site as refereence to your enemies and wait for the karma wheel to let yourself be killed by a run-away tricycle.rofl

Bite off more than u can chew,then chew like hell!

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20 Oct 2010 07:15 #53526 by jackrabbit1
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10kg gain with a 5% drop in BF is pretty damn good if you ask me. And all that in 6 weeks? Unbelievably good.

Keep the higher dose for the rest of the cycle and do Doctari's PCT.

Week 6 only starts showing promise with me. minor strength gains etc. Mostly fatloss.

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20 Oct 2010 07:24 #53530 by djin
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thanks, i know but i found this site too late :) , and thanks jackrabbit will check that pct now.

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20 Oct 2010 11:43 #53556 by spike
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well jack it does sound good on face value, but considering his stats pre fast it isnt much of a gain... While fasting your body is gonna hold on to whatever you put in it, especially if you are eating after sundown. A weight loss and bf% increase is inevitable. Once you finish fasting and return to your normal diet your weight will come back in terms of muscle mass, and your metabolism will restart, thus decreasing bf%. I would imagine that the weight gain and bf changes we see here are purely based on diet and metabolism alone, i personally dont think the test had much to do with it.

In fact i think you got the stats muddled up a bit, the gain was 6kg and ROUGHLY 5% bf reduction... And during the fast he lost 10kg...

Also consider that his actual bodyfat remained roughly the same over the transition (20% of 86kg = 17.2kg and 15% of 92kg = 13.8kg, i think a 3.4kg fat loss can be put down to diet)

Anyway, just my opinion :)

Um, but im scared of needles...

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20 Oct 2010 12:27 #53559 by jackrabbit1
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:laugh: Nice work Spike! Still - to make a turn-around of that scale is pretty good in 6 weeks.
I've been on my Deca/Sust/Proviron cycle for 6 weeks and i'm dropping weight.
But then again - thats the plan! :lol:

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20 Oct 2010 13:02 #53560 by spike
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Haha, yeah its a good turn around. Well if you dropping weight i'll gladly take it mate, im trying to bulk here :)

Um, but im scared of needles...

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