Possible quad injection concern

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27 Oct 2010 18:28 #54075 by ABC01
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I started a prop/npp/masteron prop cycle last week monday. So far my body reacts amazing to the cycle. However, yesterday i did my 1st quad injection (right quad). Injection was painless and site is still painless today but in the area of my ITB it seems to be swollen and inflamed. If i sit for more than 5min i can hardly walk. Was slightly sore this morning when i got up but it really is bad now.

I must add that i did a hard race on sunday; some leg weight training on monday and a hard interval session yesterday. Might be a overload issue as well but i have never had issues with my ITB before. So my question is: Is it possible for a quad injection to cause infection down the leg in the ITB area?

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27 Oct 2010 18:38 #54076 by vega5
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My quads always do that with the first one or two shot then they get "used" to the injections.

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27 Oct 2010 18:39 #54077 by Yohimbe
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Have you done test prop before? Notoriously painful, but normally around the site area, unless you massaged heavily, but even then it should be close to the site area. Where did you pin on your quad-centre outer quad?

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27 Oct 2010 18:47 #54080 by jackrabbit1
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Did you put 3ml in there on your first shot?
What gauge?
No more than 2ml and i strongly suggest using a 25/26gauge.
I split a 3ml in L/R quads on the same day. Load, shoot 1.5 in one leg, pull out, new needle, shoot other leg.

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27 Oct 2010 19:14 #54082 by ABC01
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Injected about halfway between hip and knee on the outside. 2ml and used 23G 1 inch needle. The injection site is 100% fine and not even red. My 1st time doing test prop and i normally massage all sites for at least 2min after pinning.

Just above the knee on the top right hand side its a swollen area about 10cm long. Just assuming its the ITB. Might be part of the muscle that i injected into. Dont know the leg muscles so well. Totally cripple:(

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28 Oct 2010 02:14 #54089 by Fakey_AK
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Hey ABC01

MY first 2 injections per quad was abit tender and sore aswell, But by the third time my quads were used to it and it was almost painless.

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28 Oct 2010 06:59 #54108 by Mr_SA
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Did you not maybe hit a vein???

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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28 Oct 2010 10:35 #54150 by ABC01
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Today i can walk but still tender. Just found it weird that a injection higher in the quad can affect a area lower down above the knee.

I took 50mg voltaren yesterday afternoon; last night and this morning. Dont know if that made the difference. Thanks for all the input. Its getting better so im not that worried anymore.

This is one insane cycle! Within 1 week there was a major difference. Worth the injection pains:laugh:

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28 Oct 2010 18:47 #54214 by Yohimbe
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Ive had it before where if you massage heavily after a pin you seem to shift the oil down and the injection pain isnt at the pinning site.

If its your first time with prop-welcome. Prop is a bitch your first time-I could barely walk for a week. It gets better.
What you can do to minimize the pain is to inject more frequently-daily-so the dose per pin is lower, but youll have to rotate sites a lot. You can also cut it 1:1 ratio in the syringe with sterile grape seed oil which will ower the concentration and make it more tolerable.
How are you handling the prop at other sites?

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28 Oct 2010 20:49 #54226 by SNOK1986
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Quads are the best but only if u hit the right place. U hit that wrong spot...jayzuz u in for shit!

Near the end of my last cycle i had probs for some reason was pinning test cyp and trianabol. 2.5mls monday and thursday. I kept on hitting a vein or something and i coughed and coughed thought i was gonna die, happened about 4 times. The one shot was crazy crazy was swollen from the top of my leg all the way around my knee the next day. But the next jab i had was painless perfectly fine...all about hitting that right spot. Luckly i can check the veins in pasty white leg so thought i was missing my veins, must of hit a deep vein or something.

That was my lil insight lol.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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29 Oct 2010 11:20 #54284 by Pumped
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bro i have injected loads of times in my quads and i find that when i inject on the middle outher side of my quad it gives me terrible pain ,can't even walk properly for about 4 days after the injection but when i inject it in the middle of my quad i find it is just a little saw around that area.But if i inject some long acting estered gear like a test cyp in my upper outer quad my whole leg is swolen and i can't even walk properly and it gets really saw around the upper knee area.I don't know why this is exactly happening to me but if someone here could explain it to me , that will be great, come on admin,oopump,DJ, you should know the reason.

You guys might think I'm crazy,but i know how to achieve greatness.

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29 Oct 2010 12:50 #54302 by 00pump
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Pumped, hrm, not to be funny but it sounds like an infection, are you drawing with the same needle you injecting. hitting a new muscle like the quad can cause discomfort however if you feeling it in the knee then that is something strange.

Serious bro, if your body doesn't like you injecting that site, rather don't. It can be a number of reasons, wrong size gauge needles, moving the needle when injecting, hitting some nerves (however I don't see any of these causing the pain you describe in your knee) unless it's got infected.

If it doesn't go away go see a doctor and if asked and you don't want to reveal steroids, say you where pinning B12/CO.

Sorry about that.

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29 Oct 2010 16:45 #54322 by ABC01
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Yohimbe wrote: Ive had it before where if you massage heavily after a pin you seem to shift the oil down and the injection pain isnt at the pinning site.

If its your first time with prop-welcome. Prop is a bitch your first time-I could barely walk for a week. It gets better.
What you can do to minimize the pain is to inject more frequently-daily-so the dose per pin is lower, but youll have to rotate sites a lot. You can also cut it 1:1 ratio in the syringe with sterile grape seed oil which will ower the concentration and make it more tolerable.
How are you handling the prop at other sites?


My leg is 100% now. Only tender if i press on the site that was swollen. Still taking the voltaren @ 50mg x 3/day. The 1st injection in my left delt was bit uncomfortable for 1 day but nothing serious. No discomfort or pain with the other pins. Its only my 2nd week though. Will be trying out the left quad on monday and see how it goes.

Im very careful with the whole thing. I swab the bottles before drawing and after with new swabs. Drawing & pinning with different needles. Swab before and after pinning the site & then long massage after pinning

Thanks for the input guys! I really apreaciate the support. We'll see how the left quad pinning goes monday:laugh:

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30 Oct 2010 14:49 #54364 by Empire
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what length needle did you use? an inch long pin or a inch and a half?

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30 Oct 2010 16:47 #54369 by ABC01
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1 inch

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30 Oct 2010 20:23 #54390 by Empire
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maybe u need to use 1.5inch to go deeper into the muscle..do you do it into the outer thigh/side of the leg or staight in the middle of the quad between the outer quad and inner thigh?

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31 Oct 2010 10:28 #54399 by ABC01
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Pinning on the outer thigh/side of the leg. Convinced that it is the pinning that caused the discomfort. Raced yesterday and today and no problems of any kind from the area that had the swelling

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01 Nov 2010 07:00 #54456 by jackrabbit1
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I also find the side more painful. I now go about 2cm off the middle line. The side is just too hard/sinuey. I alternate sites up and down that line basically pinning anywhere i dont see a surface vein. I do left and right on the same day.

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