Sust 250, PGW Cyp & EQ - cycle layout?

Morning guys

If u have the following items what would be the best way to use them?

PGW test cyp x2
Pgw EQ x2
Sust 250 x10 Amps

Was thinking of the following

Week 1 - 5 Sust 250 @ 500mg a week
Week 1 - 2 Eq @ 350mg a week
Week 3 - 14 EQ @ 525mg a week
Week 6 - 15 Test cyp @ 500mg a week

So would it be fine swapping from the Sust over to cyp.

Hi Fakey

If it was me Id prefer to stick to the sus through the whole cycle and at a higher dose (750mg+).

But I see ur point as u have already got the 2 Cyp vials.

Fakey_AK wrote: Morning guys

If u have the following items what would be the best way to use them?

PGW test cyp x2
Pgw EQ x2
Sust 250 x10 Amps

Was thinking of the following

Week 1 - 5 Sust 250 @ 500mg a week
Week 1 - 2 Eq @ 350mg a week
Week 3 - 14 EQ @ 525mg a week
Week 6 - 15 Test cyp @ 500mg a week

So would it be fine swapping from the Sust over to cyp.

You could swap the sustanon for the test cyp but its not ideal and this will start giving you unstable blood lipid profiles as the sustanon contains short, medium and long estered esters while the cyp has a sinle long ester. What you could do is mke use of sustanon's short and medium esters by using its as a frontload but then i suggest injecting yourself 3Xweek to make the full use of the compund. As for the equipoise dosage, i dont think bumping it up from 350 to 525 as of week 2, again due to fact that it will effect blood lipid pofiles.

So given your amount of gear, i would run the folloiwng

Sust250 at 250 EOD (This should roughly last from week 1-4)
Week 1-14 Equipose@400mg/week
Test cyp 6-14@500mg/week

As you can well see i have cut away a week from the test cyp usage as the equipoise and test c have a similar half-life and once if stopping them at the same time it would basically mean that you would be ready to start your pct protol about 18-21 dys after week 14

This is just my opinion and other guys may run the cycle compketely differently

Cheers

GSP

Also keep in mind that the Cyp wil result in more water retension. GSP's cycle suggestion looks quite good in my personal opinion

@GSP

EQ is 350mg a mil

2 bottle's = 7000mg's
1 - 2 = 700mg's
3 - 14 = 6300mg's
total = 7000mg's
Thats the reason behind the eq layout.

Sust 2 eod would last less then 3 weeks.


Plus i know about the short esters, The question is will the drop/spike in blood levels be that big when swapping from the sust to cyp

MCJ wrote: Also keep in mind that the Cyp wil result in more water retension. GSP's cycle suggestion looks quite good in my personal opinion

Water can be controlled with an A.I. and diet

I'm a big fan if higher doses test so I might just push the test slightly but apart from that it looks fine.

vega5 wrote: I'm a big fan if higher doses test so I might just push the test slightly but apart from that it looks fine.

Was considering bumping test dosage @ week 9 or 10 for the remainder of cycle.

Author L. Rea ( the owner of ALRIndustries) has written about this use of sust as a frontload for a lomgester test in one of his books... Sounds pretty much the same as you want to do...also talked about how sust should be injected every day and not twice a week to attain stable blood levels...

Think the book was called, "building the perfect beast" or something...

Fakey_AK wrote: @GSP

EQ is 350mg a mil

2 bottle's = 7000mg's
1 - 2 = 700mg's
3 - 14 = 6300mg's
total = 7000mg's
Thats the reason behind the eq layout.

Sust 2 eod would last less then 3 weeks.


Plus i know about the short esters, The question is will the drop/spike in blood levels be that big when swapping from the sust to cyp

Ok, mate i understand, my maths was never thre greatest. perhaps evry thrd day could be effective with the sus. I forget the anabolic make-up of sustanon (i.e what the proprtion of long to shotr-medium esteerd ratio is. I still believe that sus needs to be pinned more than 2X week to be most effective, but i cant tell you off the top of my head what the change in your blood ratios would be if u swapped mid-cycle to test cyp. Regarding the eq. shouldn be a problem running the wa u suggested mate. Again regarding bumpimg of the test mate, while i may sound like a bit of a douche. im a firm eliever in staying constant with your dosage, agents used, for the duration of your cyle.
But that s just my opinion

What about adding in another cyp.

Week 1: test cyp 500mg, sust 500mg equi 350mg
Week 2: test cyp 500mg, sust 500mg equi 350mg
Week 3: test cyp 500mg, sust 500mg equi 525mg
Week 4: test cyp 500mg, sust 500mg equi 525mg
Week 5: test cyp 500mg, sust 500mg equi 525mg
Week 6: test cyp 500mg, equi 525mg
Week 7: test cyp 500mg, equi 525mg
Week 8: test cyp 500mg, equi 525mg
Week 9: test cyp 500mg, equi 525mg
Week 10: test cyp 500mg, equi 525mg
Week 11: test cyp 500mg, equi 525mg
Week 12: test cyp 500mg, equi 525mg
Week 13: test cyp 500mg, equi 525mg
Week 14: test cyp 500mg, equi 525mg
Week 15: test cyp 500mg

week 17: start pct

Throw in another bottle of cyp and that is what i would do. Leke 5 week front load with the sus. and all the bottles will be finished.

But i respond better to bigger test dosages like vega. Just my opinion

Ok so we decided to swap out the sust 250 for another bottle of cyp. Plus we will be adding some masteron from week 6 - 15.

New cycle layout.

Week 1 - 15 test cyp @ 500mg a week split
Week 1 - 2 EQ @ 350mg a week split
Week 3 - 14 Eq @ 525mg a week split
Week 6 - 15 Masteron @ 400mg a week split

Armidex @ .50mg eod

Quess that will do the trick, if we missed anything please let me know.