first cycle - test enanthate + anavar

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17 Nov 2010 20:57 #55847 by Jack Herer
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Hello, please take a look at my cycle and tell me your opinions

1-10: test enanthate 600mg/week (injections mon-thu)
7-12: anavar 70mg ED
2-10: hCG 250iu 3x week (mon-wed-fri)
2-10: aromasin 25mg EOD

now about pct, I've read about docatri's pct, it seems good, I just have a few doubts:

quoting Doctari: "I'm quite comfortable to commence the first week of PCT when the longest acting injected drug's elimination curve has reached a value of 3 x t-half life. By the time of the 8’Th day of your PCT cycle, very close to less than 10-15% of the initial drug dosage will be left circulating. At these circulating levels, the drug should not suppress the PCT's effort to stimulate the HPT-axis' repair.

Back to the Enanthate example. If the longest acting ester was an Enanthate used, I will commence day one of the PCT protocol about 24 days from my last Enanthate injection date (3 x t-half life of 8-10 days for the Enanthate)."

so, is this correct, start pct 24 days after last injection? Most people I see start pct at 14 days after last injection. Need some advice here.

let´s say I do it like doctari is saying, so after my last injection I have to wait 24 days, meanwhile do I still keep taking aromasin 25mg EOD until pct begins? What about hCG? Take it only until my last injection, then go off and 24 days later follow doctari's pct?

Thanks for your help!

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18 Nov 2010 06:58 #55849 by Rowan
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Hey bud.

Welcome!

Cycle looks fine to me. I'm assuming its your first? If it is, 750iu hcg is a bit overkill imo. 500iu split is more than enough. Run it until your pct starts. Clomid and kessar should be fine for this kind of cycle.

I think enanth half life is about 10 days so 2 weeks after last pin should signal start of pct.

Ill wait for the vets to chime in though.

Good luck!

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18 Nov 2010 08:39 #55867 by Romp3L
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Arimidex works better during a cycle where aromasin is better as an addition to ur pct.

I agree with rowan. It is alot of var u are goiung to be using tho...
THe var will be good as an end of cycle as this has no aromitising effects and is very beneficial to a pct. Will help u drop the water retention from the test as well.
I agree with the 2 weeks later starting the pct.
1 thing tho and maybe some1 help here ,but wouldnt it be better to just use the HCG the last 4 weeks of the cycle? It seems like a waste using it in the first 5-7 weeks of the cycle. Just a thought,what u guys think?

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Awesome pit there rowan. Is it urs? I got a pit, she is not the blue pitbull,but the
amstaff. The long legged pit.

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18 Nov 2010 12:12 #55905 by Rowan
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Romp3L wrote: Arimidex works better during a cycle where aromasin is better as an addition to ur pct.

I agree with rowan. It is alot of var u are goiung to be using tho...
THe var will be good as an end of cycle as this has no aromitising effects and is very beneficial to a pct. Will help u drop the water retention from the test as well.
I agree with the 2 weeks later starting the pct.
1 thing tho and maybe some1 help here ,but wouldnt it be better to just use the HCG the last 4 weeks of the cycle? It seems like a waste using it in the first 5-7 weeks of the cycle. Just a thought,what u guys think?

Regards
Awesome pit there rowan. Is it urs? I got a pit, she is not the blue pitbull,but the
amstaff. The long legged pit.


Howzit Romp.

Nah - not mine. Got that pic off the net. Had a blue very similar though - Missy. Got a big red tip right now. Name's Syd. Awesome pit! Head like a safe and body like a tank! Loves my 3year old daughter to bits tho and plays with the cat! :)
Ripped a night adder to shreds yesterday! ;)


Gotta say pitts & rotts are my fav breeds

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19 Nov 2010 06:35 #55952 by jackrabbit1
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Romp3L wrote: Arimidex works better during a cycle where aromasin is better as an addition to ur pct.
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Aromasin rules - in all areas.

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19 Nov 2010 07:05 #55970 by 00pump
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True, if you have the cash you can use it. I like it as it doesn't cause a rebound.

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19 Nov 2010 08:37 #55995 by Romp3L
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jackrabbit1 wrote:

Romp3L wrote: Arimidex works better during a cycle where aromasin is better as an addition to ur pct.
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Aromasin rules - in all areas.


When testosterone converts to estrogen in males, it feeds into the negative feedback loop that causes testosterone to cease being produced. Therefore, most compounds that will lower aromatization, such as an AI like Arimidex, will also raise testosterone by inhibition of the negative feedback loop that signals your body to halt testosterone production. In fact, in the case of Arimidex, the elevation in Testosterone provided by the inhibition of estrogen is so large that it can actually be used as a very mild form of testosterone replacement therapy for already hypogonadal men (2). Although, this points to its use in post-cycle-therapy, I hold the personal opinion that for numerous reasons Arimidex is best kept to use on a cycle, while Aromasin (exemestane) is a better choice in a post cycle recovery routing.

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19 Nov 2010 08:52 #56000 by 00pump
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Arimidex cannot be used during PCT effectively due to the fact that it fights for the same receptor site as the SERM does.

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19 Nov 2010 10:16 #56035 by jackrabbit1
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It doesnt affect your lipid profile all that much either.

www.steroid.com/Aromasin.php

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