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21 Nov 2010 07:32 #56156 by FMH
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My gym partner was on his fourth week of a Suspension and Winstrol cycle last week when i injected him, the shot went fine but the day after he complained of a litle pain, we didnt think to much of it as suspension is known for its painfull shots.. Problem is that the pain got worse until he could barely walk, he went to the doc yesterday and now they want to operate.. He said we injected into a nerve.. However we told the doc it was just b-complex.. Now heres where i need your help, should he continue with the gear, he says he can put it under his tongue or something like that.. Or should he leave it all and do a pct after the opperation?

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21 Nov 2010 08:10 #56157 by spike
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how long after the shot did he go to the doc? What sort of pain was it? and what examination did the doc do to confirm that the injection hit a nerve?

Also where about did you do the shot (upper outer quadrant of glute?)
The sciatic nerve runs in the inner lower quadrant and as such this is a dangerous area to inject, but upper outer is quite safe.
We've all had bad injections that led to crippling glute/leg pain for up to a week, but i've never heard of anyone suggesting an operation unless there is an abscess formed. Did you follow sterility protocols? Is his pain localised (bruising/stiffness) or does it shoot down his leg?

Um, but im scared of needles...

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21 Nov 2010 08:52 #56158 by ABC01
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Suspension normally/notoriously makes a lump 1 or 2 days after injection and it is sore as shit! This however goes away after 5 to 7 days. If in the glute i dont the chances are good that you hit a nerve except the one spike reverred to. In my opinion if did hit that nerve you would prob have been in hospital already. I would take some anti inlfamatories and ride it out a couple of days

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21 Nov 2010 09:25 #56162 by Empire
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Bro.... Honestly?carry on the cycle? Ummm no get off the gear.get on to anti biotics and if need be get the doctor to either drain the injection site or opperate,it sounds to me like your mate has got an absis which is common from winstrol or test suspension as bacteria loves water based steroids...I really doubt that u would've hit a nerve I have a sneaking suspis
ion that its an absis....also u cannot swallow test suspension dude,its not like winstrol...winstrol u can take orally but not test suspension...learn from this experience that water based injection hurt like shit and are breeding grounds for infection!!! He will need to get rid of the infection bro!!! Toss the gear and get on to pct!

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21 Nov 2010 10:06 #56163 by vega5
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Remember we're doing this shit for cosmetic reasons unless your a serious competitive athlete.

So there's no reason to carry on if it is dangerous to your health.

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21 Nov 2010 12:02 #56165 by Yohimbe
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Both suspension and winny are crystals suspended in water-it can cause extreme muscle irritation and a huge lump as you're injecting crystals directly into the muscle. If a doc sees this and you tell him its vit b hes going to think its an abcess or something. How much did he inject? And whats his experience with steroids and these compounds?

But DJ is right, bacteria doesn't grow well in oil and infection from oil based injection is almost always bad sterility of the injection not contamination of the oil, water based on the other hand is dicey.

The amount of test that will be absorbed sublingually is neglible-won't work, winny he can draw in a syringe and swallow

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21 Nov 2010 17:42 #56167 by spike
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im still sceptical that this is even an abscess. Is there redness over the area and has he had a raised temperature? If so then a course of antibiotics should be sufficient. As for hitting a nerve, i think this is out of the question, and the fact that you've misinformed the dr wont help his diagnosis. As mentioned before test suspension packs a punch due to the suspended crystals, and this could simply be the problem. We'll need more answers from you before we can know for sure

Um, but im scared of needles...

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21 Nov 2010 18:47 #56168 by 00pump
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I'm in total greement with DJ... if he says he can put it under his tongue then he is clueless. Even winstrol under the tongue? Come on, why would you? Thinking you going to bypass the liver, laughs... stop the gear.. a nerve requires an Operation? Sounds fishy to me...

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22 Nov 2010 04:30 #56170 by admin
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spike wrote: im still sceptical that this is even an abscess. Is there redness over the area and has he had a raised temperature? If so then a course of antibiotics should be sufficient. As for hitting a nerve, i think this is out of the question, and the fact that you've misinformed the dr wont help his diagnosis. As mentioned before test suspension packs a punch due to the suspended crystals, and this could simply be the problem. We'll need more answers from you before we can know for sure


Yep, exactly what I was thinking.

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