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29 Nov 2010 07:55 #56852 by Deftone
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Hi Guys.

i am new to the forum and i need your advice please

years old - 23
height - 1.74
weight - 83
Training - 3 years

i am on my First Cycle i am stacking deca and sustanon 250
on monday sustanon 250 + 100 mg Deca and on wednesday 200mg deca
i am using it now for 3 weeks now but to be honest i see no diffrents in my body i picked up 1 kg haha in 3 weeks , what do you guys think is the problem?? do i need to stack more deca?

Pls guys help.

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29 Nov 2010 08:12 #56854 by Zimbulk88
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guys will ask the following questions
whats ur diet like .. u need to FTJ brother ... fuel the jet !!!! diet is crucial to any part of training and u can gear and if u dont eat right u not gonna see results ... what ur diet like and im sure doctor DJ will sort u out or point u in the right direction. Some advise would be to front load with d bol at 40mg a day as this will help results appear faster .. the oils will be at their maximum in 5 weeks or so... i have used deca and sust .. my split was 250mg sust and 125mg od deca twice a week and i grew nicley ... i ate clean and large quantities of protein and carbs ... let us know what the diets like and guys will help u out here no problem

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29 Nov 2010 08:31 #56855 by Deftone
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my diet is the following

8:00 - 2 eggs

10:00 - 1 slices white bread with ham and cheese

12:00 - tuna or pasta or chicken breast

14:00 - 1 slices white bread with ham and cheese

18:00 - red meat or chicken with a salad ( i dont eat vegetables )

so you guys think it is enough to use 250mg sust and 300mg deca a week?

Thanks alot guys.

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29 Nov 2010 08:40 #56859 by chemically enhanced
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bru is this a joke?
where the fuck did you get that diet from?
sounds like that diet was made for a euthiopian primary school kid.
you might aswell take that money you spending on juice and pay someone for a proper diet,how difficult of a theory is it for people to understand that you need to eat food to grow?

"Somewhere in China a little girl is warming up with your max"

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29 Nov 2010 08:54 #56862 by johndoe14
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yeah chem ur right. but don't be so harsh on the guy. Shame man .. haha

Anyways deftone you made a huge mistake not doing research. you have wasted plenty juice.
firstly you're diet is crap. Only my breakfast looks more impressive than you're whole day.
secondly you're injection sced isnt too good deca is eod and sust twice a week

Oh look ....... EGGS ....

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29 Nov 2010 08:55 #56863 by johndoe14
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Look around the site to contact the dietguru .. DJ
He can make you a custom diet will work wonders even without gear...
But he does charge,

gudluck deftone

Oh look ....... EGGS ....

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29 Nov 2010 08:56 #56864 by johndoe14
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Oh yeah and I hope you know that you need PCT ...?

Oh look ....... EGGS ....

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29 Nov 2010 09:04 #56865 by Zimbulk88
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my man ... ok a person training should never eat so little
1) u will never grow as ur body has nothing to store or use
2) Ur training must take a hammering as u dont have the carbs for energy.
Do u take any form of supplements ?? if u dont i would start by purchasing some . The diet needs a lot of work as ur not eatting enough of anything hence why u not growing..
Im not a diet expert but u should bump up ur protein by eatting lots of egg whites not whole eggs. Have a MRP ( shake ) at 10:00 with some low gi carbs.
At 1 o clock or around then have complex carbs like pasta or brown rice with two tins of tuna or 300g of red meat or chicken breasts. Make sure u have a pre and post workout shake and eat a balanced meal after training . Sweet potato and chicken is my favourite ... when u eat ur salad throw in some boiled egg whites and make sure u eat around every 2 to 3 hours ... get some creatine and BCAA's into ur self as well.. diet is crucial .... FTJ

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29 Nov 2010 09:06 #56866 by Deftone
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thanks johndoe and Zimbulk i will do some research , i didnt get a diet from anyone but now i know what the problem is and chem i am new to this so i just need some help from you guys that know what they are doing

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29 Nov 2010 09:11 #56867 by Deftone
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thanks alot Zimbulk this will help me alot , i will get myself some supplements today..thanks for all the info

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29 Nov 2010 10:03 #56871 by spike
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food my man. You need it.
If you wanna salvage this cycle you better sort out a real diet asap. Eat to grow.

As for the cycle itself you need to up that test. The deca is fine where it is but its more than your test which is bad news for your sex life. Try inject twice a week as this keeps levels most stable.

Um, but im scared of needles...

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29 Nov 2010 10:24 #56873 by Empire
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Deftone wrote: my diet is the following

8:00 - 2 eggs + 8-10 egg whites + 1 cup of oats

11:00 - whey and nuts

13:00 - chicken breasts (more than 1) + veggies + table spoon olive oil

16:00 - whey and nuts

18:00 - red meat with veg( i dont eat vegetables,get over it and start eating them! )

21:00 - whey and nuts

pre work out carbs
post work out whey + powerade
so you guys think it is enough to use 250mg sust and 300mg deca a week? Rather only use 500mg sust a week for your first cycle!

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29 Nov 2010 10:56 #56878 by Deftone
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thanks alot DJ this info and diet will help me alot..do you think i must rather leave the deca for now and replace it with d-bol 40 mg a day + 500mg sust a week??

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29 Nov 2010 11:03 #56882 by Empire
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look in the cycle discussions section your will see a thread that says what a first cycle should look like

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30 Nov 2010 12:49 #57017 by Deftone
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Thanks alot DJ , what is the best manufacture whey protein to buy??

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30 Nov 2010 12:53 #57021 by Empire
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i like ssn stuff personally

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30 Nov 2010 13:05 #57024 by Deftone
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thanks DJ i am going to give it a try

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