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03 Dec 2010 18:34 #57234 by ABC01
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Guys im trying to wrap my mind around my next cycle in a good couple of months. I want your opinion on which one of the following would in ur opinion give the better results at exactly the dosages im posting here. Goal is cutting and hardening up like the cycle im on now. I might be on keto during this cycle

1. Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8/NPP 75mg eod week 1-6/Masteron prop 50mg eod week 1-6/winstrol 30mg ed week 7 - start of pct (this is my current cycle and im very happy with it)

2. Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8/Tren ace 40mg eod week 1-6/Masteron prop 50mg eod week 1-6/winstrol 30mg ed week 7-start of pct

3. Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8/tren ace 80mg eod week 1-6/winstrol 30mg ed week 7 to start of pct

Dont know why but for some reason im just so tempted to try tren. I know cycle 1 works wonders for me at those dosages. Bit scared of the tren sides. Have asthma so would rather not want a tren cough attack.

If my bf is higher than 12.5% at that stage i might leave the masteron out of the cycle

So guys at those dosages which cycle would be more bang for buck?

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03 Dec 2010 20:42 #57237 by BB_guy
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If you aren't a novice user I think option 2 would be killer. I just think your doses are way to low.
For myself I would double everything, 200mg Prop eod, Tren 80mg eod, Mast 100mg eod and Winny 50mg ed.

Havent run NPP, but used Deca plenty and you just cant compare Deca with Tren, miles apart
Not sure about the asthma though, but from my experience Tren cough isnt so bad and it doesnt happen to everybody, but it could be risky

Running the same compounds as "the number 2 option" at the moment,just long esters... first time using Masterone(excited LOL)

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04 Dec 2010 06:19 #57241 by ABC01
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Thanks for input BB! I think there is def a synergy between the compounds you are running now. Im certainly impressed and im sure you will be happy with the results.

This is my 2nd cycle. Is trying tren on a 3rd cycle a bit premature?

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04 Dec 2010 08:42 #57258 by BB_guy
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I think the smarter thing to do would be to play around with the basic cycles for a while longer, get more of a feel for gear and the way your body responds...

Personally, I think if you are educated enough on the subject, there isnt really a right or wrong time to use a specific compound, as long as you are healthy and know whats cooking and how to combat sides etc...

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06 Dec 2010 18:45 #57363 by ABC01
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ABC01 wrote: Guys im trying to wrap my mind around my next cycle in a good couple of months. I want your opinion on which one of the following would in ur opinion give the better results at exactly the dosages im posting here. Goal is cutting and hardening up like the cycle im on now. I might be on keto during this cycle

1. Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8/NPP 75mg eod week 1-6/Masteron prop 50mg eod week 1-6/winstrol 30mg ed week 7 - start of pct (this is my current cycle and im very happy with it)

2. Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8/Tren ace 40mg eod week 1-6/Masteron prop 50mg eod week 1-6/winstrol 30mg ed week 7-start of pct

3. Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8/tren ace 80mg eod week 1-6/winstrol 30mg ed week 7 to start of pct

Dont know why but for some reason im just so tempted to try tren. I know cycle 1 works wonders for me at those dosages. Bit scared of the tren sides. Have asthma so would rather not want a tren cough attack.

If my bf is higher than 12.5% at that stage i might leave the masteron out of the cycle

So guys at those dosages which cycle would be more bang for buck?


Been doing allot of reading on tren and apart from the general opinion that its the SHIT there is also allot saying that cardio is a big no no and allot had breathing restrictions. In my case i really like my cardio sport so this might not be totally the way to go. Still considering though. I have a 4th option now as well:

Week 1-8: Test prop 100mg eod & NPP 100mg eod
Week 4 till start of PCT 40mg winstrol ed

I know its advised that test should be run a few days longer that the NPP and also that the test dosage should be higher than the NPP. However could this cycle be done and has anybody ran a simular cycle like this?

So guys if you took all 4 cycles into consideration which one in ur opinion would be better at those dosages?

Ur help much appreciated........like always

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07 Dec 2010 07:29 #57376 by Pumped
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ABC01 wrote:

ABC01 wrote: Guys im trying to wrap my mind around my next cycle in a good couple of months. I want your opinion on which one of the following would in ur opinion give the better results at exactly the dosages im posting here. Goal is cutting and hardening up like the cycle im on now. I might be on keto during this cycle

1. Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8/NPP 75mg eod week 1-6/Masteron prop 50mg eod week 1-6/winstrol 30mg ed week 7 - start of pct (this is my current cycle and im very happy with it)

2. Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8/Tren ace 40mg eod week 1-6/Masteron prop 50mg eod week 1-6/winstrol 30mg ed week 7-start of pct

3. Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8/tren ace 80mg eod week 1-6/winstrol 30mg ed week 7 to start of pct

Dont know why but for some reason im just so tempted to try tren. I know cycle 1 works wonders for me at those dosages. Bit scared of the tren sides. Have asthma so would rather not want a tren cough attack.

If my bf is higher than 12.5% at that stage i might leave the masteron out of the cycle

So guys at those dosages which cycle would be more bang for buck?


Been doing allot of reading on tren and apart from the general opinion that its the SHIT there is also allot saying that cardio is a big no no and allot had breathing restrictions. In my case i really like my cardio sport so this might not be totally the way to go. Still considering though. I have a 4th option now as well:

Week 1-8: Test prop 100mg eod & NPP 100mg eod
Week 4 till start of PCT 40mg winstrol ed


I know its advised that test should be run a few days longer that the NPP and also that the test dosage should be higher than the NPP. However could this cycle be done and has anybody ran a similar cycle like this?

So guys if you took all 4 cycles into consideration which one in ur opinion would be better at those dosages?

Ur help much appreciated........like always


I ran a cycle similar to this but mine was as follows:

150mg's EOD test prop 150mg's EOD NPP and proviron 40mg's per day right through the cycle.I don't feel the need to add in winstrol as your diet and you're training program should help you to cut.

You guys might think I'm crazy,but i know how to achieve greatness.

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07 Dec 2010 07:39 #57377 by Pumped
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My cycles are also 8 weeks long and i do the PCT-medium in the sticky thread.I feel great when I'm on this cycle.
You'll need the following amount of gear to do this Cycle:
1.) 5 Vials of PGW test Prop.
2.) 3 Vials of PGW NPP.
3.) 3 boxes of LP Proviron.
4.) 1 Vial of LP HCG 5000IU.
5.) 1 box of LP clomid.
6.) 1 box of LP Nolvadex.

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07 Dec 2010 07:42 #57378 by Pumped
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If i have a bit of gear left over i just use it and do another week or week and a halve until its finished.I run Proviron until the day before PCT.I start my PCT 5 days after my last shot.

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07 Dec 2010 08:08 #57381 by Empire
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Pumped wrote:

ABC01 wrote:

ABC01 wrote: Guys im trying to wrap my mind around my next cycle in a good couple of months. I want your opinion on which one of the following would in ur opinion give the better results at exactly the dosages im posting here. Goal is cutting and hardening up like the cycle im on now. I might be on keto during this cycle

1. Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8/NPP 75mg eod week 1-6/Masteron prop 50mg eod week 1-6/winstrol 30mg ed week 7 - start of pct (this is my current cycle and im very happy with it)

2. Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8/Tren ace 40mg eod week 1-6/Masteron prop 50mg eod week 1-6/winstrol 30mg ed week 7-start of pct

3. Test prop 100mg eod week 1-8/tren ace 80mg eod week 1-6/winstrol 30mg ed week 7 to start of pct

Dont know why but for some reason im just so tempted to try tren. I know cycle 1 works wonders for me at those dosages. Bit scared of the tren sides. Have asthma so would rather not want a tren cough attack.

If my bf is higher than 12.5% at that stage i might leave the masteron out of the cycle

So guys at those dosages which cycle would be more bang for buck?


Been doing allot of reading on tren and apart from the general opinion that its the SHIT there is also allot saying that cardio is a big no no and allot had breathing restrictions. In my case i really like my cardio sport so this might not be totally the way to go. Still considering though. I have a 4th option now as well:

Week 1-8: Test prop 100mg eod & NPP 100mg eod
Week 4 till start of PCT 40mg winstrol ed


I know its advised that test should be run a few days longer that the NPP and also that the test dosage should be higher than the NPP. However could this cycle be done and has anybody ran a similar cycle like this?

So guys if you took all 4 cycles into consideration which one in ur opinion would be better at those dosages?

Ur help much appreciated........like always


I ran a cycle similar to this but mine was as follows:

150mg's EOD test prop 150mg's EOD NPP and proviron 40mg's per day right through the cycle.I don't feel the need to add in winstrol as your diet and you're training program should help you to cut.


bud winstrol is still an anabolic steroid! when dieting you cut back on calories and add in cardio,so this can be catabolic,so adding in another anabolic to the mix that also has some DHT properties to harden up the physique and keep you anabolic in a possible catabolic situation is actually a brilliant idea,winstrol and NPP are a very good combination so i dont see why you wouldnt add in the winstrol!

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07 Dec 2010 10:33 #57390 by ABC01
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Cool! So its confirmed that the test prop/NPP/winstrol cycle is the way to go. I was also toying with the idea of running proviron at 40mg ed through cycle and leaving out the winstrol. I know that one of the best cycles jackrabbit (i think) did was test prop/NPP/proviron. I like the effect of winstrol so i'll go for it. Maybe i'll add in proviron for the 1st 3 weeks at 60mg/day. Dont know if that would be beneficial or not for such a short time

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09 Dec 2010 08:25 #57556 by STUARTF
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Hey ABC01
I finished a prop/tren/mast/win/prov course a few weeks ago and I must admit that it is a relief to be off the tren. I can do cardio again without any problems and I have noticed that I am a lot more stable mentally. It never has given me sides like this before but it has given me extreme mood swings and generally makes me uptight and edgy all the time. You will do fine with prop/NPP/winny and it will be beneficial to add proviron as I find it a necessity in all my coarses. At the end of the day you are still running a test / 19-nor / DHT combo which will all compliment eachother. I would also add masteron and possibly alternate with the winny.

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09 Dec 2010 12:52 #57589 by ABC01
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I will consider adding masteron if bf is under 10% at that stage

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