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14 Dec 2010 07:29 #57840 by Blokkies
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Hi there, new to the forum. Very cool, so I am planning to do my first cycle middle of Jan 2011. My stats: 27, 80kg, bf is 16%. But I will only go on my cycle when my bf is 12%. Just so I understand correctly, from reading the "first cycle sticky". Please
correct me if I am wrong. When do I inject and take my tabs? Mornings or before gym?

Week 1 - 8
Test Cyp 500mg - Mon and Thurs inject, Mon 250gr and Thurs 250gr

Week 9 - 12
Test Cyp 500mg - Same as above
Proviron 50mg daily

Week 13
Clomid 50gr x 2 daily

Week 14 - 16
Kessar 20mg daily

Hope this is all in order. Thanks in advance ;)

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14 Dec 2010 07:44 #57841 by Pumped
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If you gonna be using D-bol @ 40mg's per day i would recommend that you take the pill at these times of the day.

7.00am
12.00am/pm (midday)
3pm
8pm

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14 Dec 2010 07:45 #57842 by Yohimbe
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You can use the proviron longer if you like-not 17 alpha alkylated, its methylated so not liver toxic

I would throw in some hcg for pct instead of the clomid weeks 13-14 and run the kessar for 4 weeks, or run the clomid and kessar togther for 4 weeks 14-18.

Otherwise a solid first cycle. Doesnt matter when you inject, just keep to the same schedule to keep blood levels stable

Good luck

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14 Dec 2010 09:20 #57846 by Blokkies
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Thanx for the advice, @pumped I will only be using Test Cyp, no d/bol. Should I use d/bol? Just decided not to use it, no specific reason. Hey thanx @yohimbe, a bit nervous,hehehe.

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14 Dec 2010 10:29 #57852 by du Preez
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Solid cycle Blokkies, ;)

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15 Dec 2010 06:16 #57875 by Blokkies
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Is D/bol a option for me to use?, any specific reason?

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15 Dec 2010 06:23 #57877 by Empire
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Blokkies wrote: Is D/bol a option for me to use?, any specific reason?


yes it is dude,use it as a kick start to the injectables in your cycle...so for the first 4 weeks use dianabol

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15 Dec 2010 06:31 #57879 by Rowan
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Howzit Blokkies!
Welcome to the board, bud - hope your stay will be a long & enjoyable one :)

Bud, D-bol is used to 'frontload' or kickstart' a cycle.

With a compund like cypionate, you only start to feel the real effect of the drug around week 4 or 5. Some people dont like to wait so long.

Enter Dbol.

You get dramatic strength increase with dbol which you experience as early as week 1 ending. You use it for roughly 4 weeks for 2 reasons:

1. It is 17a alkylated which means it is liver toxic
2.by that time the test will have kicked in.

Good luck!

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15 Dec 2010 07:50 #57894 by Blokkies
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Good stuff, thanx Dj and Rowan, have some karma......;)

I will use it as in the sticky, "how a first cycle should look". Is there something I can use for my liver? I do have a glass of wine on weekends but thats it, would that be ok? What can I use to prevent test flu?

Thanx ;)

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15 Dec 2010 07:57 #57896 by Empire
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do not drink bro.... your liver will be fine,you either take stuff for liver pre cycle or post cycle not during your cycle as it block androgen receptors lessening the gains....

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15 Dec 2010 18:03 #57951 by Blokkies
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Thanx Dj, on "off" days do I still take my tabs, like my d/bol? Where can I get info on how to inject, my fiance will be doing it, would like to get some info on it.

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15 Dec 2010 19:01 #57952 by Pumped
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Here bro here's a good site to look at

www.steroids-pharma.com/injecting.php

Watch the video there carefully and follow it and you'll be fine bro.

If you're gonna be injecting test (obviously) then i would just like to warm you that your libido will go through the roof for the first 6 weeks or so.So just be pre-pared and warm your fiance as well.Especially if you're gonna be running Proviron .

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17 Dec 2010 05:13 #57991 by Blokkies
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Jisie thanx my bra, julle ouens is regtig cool, dankie vir al die advice!!!!!

Regards ;)

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17 Dec 2010 05:22 #57992 by vega5
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Blokkies wrote: on "off" days do I still take my tabs, like my d/bol?

Yes you'll need to take it everyday as to keep blood hormone level stable. Remember you grow when you rest, so it is vitally important to stick to a strict regimen.

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17 Dec 2010 05:30 #57993 by Blokkies
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Thanx Vega. So can anyone tell me how their first cycle looked? and how much they gained on their first cycle, how much would I pickup about?

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17 Dec 2010 05:46 #57994 by 00pump
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Impossible to say. It will all come down to diet / age / level of experience in a gym, if you abuse your body on a weekend / have you reached your natural peak, etc.

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17 Dec 2010 05:56 #57995 by Blokkies
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Here is my diet that I will be doing with my cycle, just for info. Got this diet from a friend, hope its ok.

Breakfast

Oats 60gr
X3 Eggs

Mid Morning

Whey Protein 60gr
Peanut butter 30gr

Lunch

Chicken 200gr with x2 cups of veggies or x2 slices of whole grain bread with x1 can of tuna

Mid afternoon

Lean mince 200gr with x2 slices of whole grain bread

17H00

Oats 60gr and 20gr raisens

Post workout

Whey protein 60gr and 30gr peanut butter

Dinner

Chicken 200gr or lean mince 200gr with x2 cups of veggies

Before bed

Whey protein 60gr

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17 Dec 2010 06:02 #57996 by Blokkies
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@00pump, Thanx man, I had a smoke now and then and on weekends I used to take a few drinks, but since begin of December nothing yet, just want to get into the habit not to drink. Doesnt help you buy the "juice" and train in the week and on weekends you party like an animal, would be a WASTE.

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17 Dec 2010 06:05 #57997 by Pumped
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Blokkies wrote: Thanx Vega. So can anyone tell me how their first cycle looked? and how much they gained on their first cycle, how much would I pickup about?


I have recommended this cycle to a few of my friends and given them diets to go along with it and they have picked up about 4-5 kg's OF MUSCLE not water.But they were running 40mg's per day of proviron through the entire cycle.There last 2 weeks they used 50mg's per day of Oral winstrol.There pct was ...
week: 1 Clomid @150mg's per day.
week:2-4 Nolvadex @ 20mg's per day.
week:2 onwards ,HCG @ 250iu Every day.

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17 Dec 2010 06:34 #57998 by vega5
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Pumped, I don't particularly agree with the 150mg of Clomid, sounds a bit much there.

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17 Dec 2010 06:39 #57999 by 00pump
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True, especially when you using Nolva. At 150mg of Clomid your vision will become impaired and you might suffer from depression. I sometimes suffer with 100mg of Clomid and hence the reason I normally only run Clomid at 50mg for 10 days and Nolva for 30

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17 Dec 2010 08:12 #58014 by Blokkies
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Would the diet be ok?

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17 Dec 2010 12:06 #58024 by m0lt3n
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I will give my 2cents on your diet..

your breakfast needs more protein, I would do 3 yolks and 6 egg whites with the oats.
The alternative for your lunch doesnt look good, 2 slices bread and one can of tuna isnt worth much.
you can maybe add a little of some kind of protein to your pre workout (whey)
Add something like 40grams of dextrose/glucose to your post workout, it will get you out of catabolism, feed hungry muscles and give you an insulin spike which will then also absorb the protein.
Add something to your last shake to slow the absorption of the whey during the night, to lessen the time you are asleep without nutrients, add peanut butter (some say no fats before sleep, opinions differ) or just eat a little leftover chicken from the previous meal.

The other guys will correct me where I am wrong

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17 Dec 2010 14:10 #58031 by Pumped
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Blokkies wrote: Here is my diet that I will be doing with my cycle, just for info. Got this diet from a friend, hope its ok.

Breakfast

Oats 60gr
X3 Eggs

Mid Morning

Whey Protein 60gr
Peanut butter 30gr

Lunch

Chicken 200gr with x2 cups of veggies or x2 slices of whole grain bread with x1 can of tuna

Mid afternoon

Lean mince 200gr with x2 slices of whole grain bread

17H00

Oats 60gr and 20gr raisens

Post workout

Whey protein 60gr and 30gr peanut butter

Dinner

Chicken 200gr or lean mince 200gr with x2 cups of veggies

Before bed

Whey protein 60gr




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Take a look at this diet that dj posted for skyths pre-contest prep.Im following it and have have great gains.

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17 Dec 2010 14:48 #58032 by 00pump
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Be careful about using a diet that isnt stuctured for your weight and what you trying to achieve. I would get a proper diet from DJ as I believe that is too little calories to grow, then again 80 kgs minus that body fat.. Speak to DJ

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