First course.

Hi,
I am new to the use of steroids and I am about to start on my first course suggested by a friend.
The course looks like this:
40mg dianabol per day for 2 weeks thereafter 250mg sustanon per week for 5 weeks.
Does this seem like a good first timers course to you guys?
Please excuse my ignorance.
Thanks in advance
Marnus

What post cycle therapy did your friend recommend?

You can't start a cycle without proper planning!

i think that is overly conservative even for a first cycle. The sust should be run longer, maybe 10 weeks, and should start same time as the dbol. The dbol can also be extended to 4 weeks. The sust dose could be upped if you like. And dont forget a pct

I've always been a big fan of a single ester test, particularly Cypionate as a first cycle and pharma if possible. Guys grow like weeds on 500mg Pharma a week for 10 weeks on their first cycle.

I agree with Spike that the d-bol and the test should start the same time and the cycle should be at least 10 weeks.

My concern here is that there was no mention of a PCT here, hence my first post.

Thx Spike, unfortunately money is a factor.
Vega, my friend suggested Kessar? Is it good for pct?
I fear this friend of mine is just as inexperienced as I am.

Marnus1993 wrote: Thx Spike, unfortunately money is a factor.
Vega, my friend suggested Kessar? Is it good for pct?
I fear this friend of mine is just as inexperienced as I am.

Bud, save some money and then do your cycle. A cycle like this + full pct doesn't cost that much.

We're not allowed to discuss prices here but I'm sure we can talk totals, if you have about R1700 then you'll be good.

Hey bud

As mentioned before 5 weeks is abit short. Extend cycle to 10 weeks and add some clomid into pct and hcg on cycle.

Apart from that whats ur stats?

I am currently at
1.78m
82kg.
I'm aiming for 90kg, so I don't think the most extreme course (or expensive) is required?
As I'm still a student R1700 is hard to come by.

Thanks guys, your help is invaluable.

Age?
BF%?

Well u don't need the most expensive, if u haven't purchased it yet get two bottles test cyp and kessar and clomid. Test cyp @ 500mg for 10 weeks and clomid and kessar for pct. U don't really need the d-bols so u can safe there.

18 years old
13% body fat.

This not talking about prices thing is seriously restrictive.

How would the course look then? Would that be Test Cyp 500mg per week for 10 weeks and then clomid and kessar as soon as I finish the 10 weeks of Test Cyp?
Sorry about all the questions but honestly I know the barest minimum about all of this. So can you please be specific. Thanks

Marnus1993 wrote: 18 years old
13% body fat.

This not talking about prices thing is seriously restrictive.

How would the course look then? Would that be Test Cyp 500mg per week for 10 weeks and then clomid and kessar as soon as I finish the 10 weeks of Test Cyp?
Sorry about all the questions but honestly I know the barest minimum about all of this. So can you please be specific. Thanks

Sorry bud but at that age i can't give anymore advise on the subject. UR just way to young to use them. Almost every1 on this board will tell u this. Sorry bud, for now look at cleaning up the diet and training harder. Ur over all stats are good for ur age and u can still built even more on that base.

Wait till ur 23y old and then consider cycling again. By that time u might have packed on another 10 kg's of solid mass, who knows. But seriously i would strongly advise that u reconsider using them at this age.

Go to the diet section post ur diet and see where u can be help out and post ur training regime in the traing section and get sum more advise there aswell.

Goodluck bud.

Thanks for the advice bud, I'll continue naturally then.
Cheers.

Also bud don't feel discourage from what i've said, stick around and read and learn. We can help u here more then just with aas q's.

Marnus1993 wrote: Thanks for the advice bud, I'll continue naturally then.
Cheers.

R100 says that he starts this cycle on monday and comes back here in 2 months under a different username asking "what happened to my gains?"

Hold on to your R100 buddy, your gonna need it for the new year.

Marnus1993 wrote: Hold on to your R100 buddy, your gonna need it for the new year.

Good comeback! But I agree with Fakey that you should hang around and learn as much as you can.

You 18 years old you have no business using steroids, what makes it worse is you prepared to abuse your body but not spend the cash to balance yourself. Give the gear away, train natural till you 21 get a job and do a proper cycle..

Yes pump, I think we have already established that.
I'll definitely do that. Thanks for the advice guys, enjoy the new year.

hey there

im 23 soon and i keen to do my first cycle with also a test cycle only for 10 weeks !!
my main issue is that i am afraid of hairloss (and no im not going to shave my head as ill look like an complete idiot) so thats no option.

So... i wana do a test + finesteride + minoxil 5% and then after a good pct
how many mg test per week will be enough to get gains and not too much DHT conversion and also what should the dosages of finesteride be during this cycle.

im about 1.78m and 77kg lean and a verry hard gainer.

thanks for help guys help n man uit hierso

If you are 77 at 178 you are not a hard gainer. I was 61 at that height at 21.
1mg Finasteride.

The basic test first cycle should be good - +- 600mg TestE for 10-12 weeks.
Leave the DBol frontload if you are worried about hairloss.


Why are you worried about hairloss in the first place?

Just a point to remember. Finasteride can make you shed at first while it establishes stable levels. Can take some time.
Everyone has a different experience and some of those experiences are scary so make sure you read up on it.

Deadgoat wrote:

Marnus1993 wrote: Thanks for the advice bud, I'll continue naturally then.
Cheers.

R100 says that he starts this cycle on monday and comes back here in 2 months under a different username asking "what happened to my gains?"

LMAO! DG - you should become S.A's 1st BB comedian bud! You flippin crack me up!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: