Recommendations with my Lean mass Cycle

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18 Jan 2011 08:41 #59539 by janhdebuhr
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Hi guys,
im new to this forum so this is my first post. Wanted to get some recommendations on my lean mass cycle.Im taking 1ml of testosterone enathate a week. and 1 ml of trenbolon enathate per week for 10 weeks. Im keeping my water intake very high with the tren and. also 2 weeks after my last injection im going to start pct to help get things started again.
My diet is up to scratch as im hoping to get very lean gains and drop my body fat to about 8% from 14% which it is now.
My cycle is:
Trenbolon Enathate 150mg x 10ml
Testosteron Enathate 300mg x 10ml
PCT
Nolvadex 20mgx30

If u guys have any suggestions or recommendations please feel free to post. Im all ears as im still a novice to gear.
Thanks

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18 Jan 2011 09:06 #59542 by Mr_SA
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Welcome jandebuhr!

Is this your first cycle?
You might want to add Proviron in to keep water down, and i think you need to re-look at your pct to include Clomid (5 x 100mg) then Nolva for 30 days.

Please post your diet up.

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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18 Jan 2011 12:20 #59554 by janhdebuhr
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Thanks alot for the quick response.
No i did a cycle last year of deca and test, got some really decent gains but then injured my back and was out for a couple months. Ive now bin training for a solid 4 months and im back where i should be. Proviron def sounds good. I forgot to add that i have clomid (10* 100mg) but i will def go out and purchase Nolva for 30 Days.
Coming to my diet it is pretty lean. My last cycle i pretty much cut out most fats and got really good lean gains.At the moment this is what it looks like.
Morning:
2 cups raw oats
1 cup skim milk
Handful of raisins
Mid Morning
4 eggs (2 whites and 2 yolks)
4 slices whole wheat low GI Bread
1 apple
Glass of orange Juice
Lunch
2 Chicken Breast
Cup of Sweet Potatoes
Salad with olive oil and balsamic vinegar
Mid Afternoon
2 slices of whole wheat low GI Bread
Low fat cottage cheese
1 apple and some Broccoli (Raw)
Dinner
200 g lean mince
Cup Brown Rice
Veggies (Steamed)
Before Bed
Protein Shake (Myoplex)
Omega 3 Tabs
Multi Vitamin
and Bed Time!
I try get in 10 hours sleep daily and drink at least 4.5 litres of water according to my body weight.
I hope thats helpful if u need anymore info pls feel free to ask.

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18 Jan 2011 12:32 #59557 by Deadgoat
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Since this isn't your first cycle I'd double the doses and add the proviron suggested by Mr SA

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18 Jan 2011 12:35 #59558 by Etwa
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whats your body stats look like, not sure you getting enough food in. I get about the same amount of food per meal as what you get for every 3.

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18 Jan 2011 12:40 #59559 by Roozer
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Welcome janhdebuhr, Bud i think you have to re-look that cycle bud as i feel your test dose is not high enough i would at least double it up to 600mg minimum, are you using a AI, to control estrogen levels? Give us some stats for example, height? weight? bf? age? and did you start the cycle already?

I would personally add a hcg in the end aswell as tren is a 19-nor substance. I felt the ovidrel worked like a charm after my tren cycle (with clomid and kessar included). and again 10 weeks on tren is harsh 6-7 weeks is the norm.

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18 Jan 2011 14:20 #59571 by janhdebuhr
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Thanks all for the quick response, no i havent started the cycle yet as i wanted to get everything together as suggested first. My stats at the moment is:
1.85 metres, weight 94 kg's and body fat at 14 % and im 21yrs old.
My concern is that 10 weeks on tren even if the dosage is low might be too long. Ive bin reading 6-7 weeks at most but those dosages were up to 300mg...

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18 Jan 2011 16:56 #59583 by ABC01
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Im surpriced that nobody comments on him running tren on only his 2nd cycle......

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18 Jan 2011 18:47 #59589 by Frikkie
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ABC01 wrote: Im surpriced that nobody comments on him running tren on only his 2nd cycle......


ja hel! its your 2nd cycle, you dont really have much of a clue if i look at your 'pct', doses and durations, AND YOU ARE 21??? you REALLY shouldnt take tren.....
i think you should wait atleast a year or two before you take AAS again, do proper research and ask guys who really know (and then listen to them). i dont wana be a doos, just trying to help...

good luck man

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18 Jan 2011 19:58 #59598 by janhdebuhr
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Thanks guys for the concern,
i am not in any rush so im doing alot of research concerning PCT cycle. I have read through the "Guide to PCT construction" on the forum and believe the "Doctari PCT - Ovidrel" cycle is the correct one to take

15x Clomid 50mg, first 7 days
1x Ovidrel 250mcg, used 8 days onwards 10iu's one day on, one day off
30x Aromosin 20mg, used 8 days onwards for 30 days
30x Nolvadex 20mg used 8 days onwards for 30 days
All above info is on the forum right up on the Guide to PCT construction.

I believe following these recommendations i will be in good hands. Any Ideas?

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19 Jan 2011 05:26 #59609 by 00pump
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Every drug in the PCT read up on common side effects, then read up on what gear you will be taking. Get yourself ready so you prepared and can identify what could be causing what.

If you study each of these drugs you will make an educated decision on how much to use and what to use.

I would look at running Tren Ace for a short period of time and seeing if you like it or not (if you want to use it) this way if you get any nasty side effects it is out of your body quickly.
Good luck :D

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19 Jan 2011 05:53 #59611 by Empire
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umm dude u are only 21 years old,you have started a bit young,i wouldnt use tren if i was you just yet,rather up your test dosage and run that,tren is like taking morphine for a stubbed toe when panado will do...

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19 Jan 2011 06:22 #59614 by 00pump
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Dj's idea would even be better. And to be honest if it's your second cycle you will do well on test alone.

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19 Jan 2011 07:43 #59621 by janhdebuhr
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Really appreciate all the advice, understand the concern with regards to age etc.
If i do end up going the route and stacking tren and test e i would like to do it in the best possible way with the least possible side effects. Would u guys mind giving me advice on amounts and time periods for test e and tren?
I will be doing research on everything till i feel comfortable with my knowledge base.Before that i am not taking anything.

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