Some Cycle advice pls,

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02 Feb 2011 19:40 #60367 by Bakkis
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Hi guys,
This is my first post on this forum. Bin gyming for a very long time and have also had a couple of previous cycles. Im currently 29 years old, 94 kg at 13 % body fat. Im planning on embarking on a 10 week course of Testosteron Enathate 300mg x 10ml (1 ml a week) and 7 weeks of Trenbolon Enathate 150mg x 10ml (1ml a week). I have not used Tren before and therefore wanted to take all precautions necessary. So i will start off with 7 weeks of Test and Tren, then discontinue the Tren and continue for another 3 weeks with Test alone.

For my post cycle therapy ive read through alot on the forums and will be using the Doctari PCT- Ovidrel PCT. Knowing that tren has serious androgenic properties i will not take my PCT lightly and hope for any further information you guys could assist with. Below is the PCT ive decided to go for:
7x Clomid 50mg,
1x Ovidrel 250mcg,
30x Aromosin 20mg,
30x Nolvadex 20mg

My diet has also changed alot over the last couple months, as ive decided to consult a dietician in the hope of losing a couple more percentages of body fat and getting it down to about 8%.

What i was basically hoping for is for anyone to make any suggestions or changes etc that would help with my endeavour. I hoping to start of next week and keep like a journal for you guys to follow my progress. If anyone would like any further info please let me know.
Thanks for all your help.

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02 Feb 2011 20:09 #60369 by roidolone
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can you post up all your previous cycles the durations and the exact time your previous cycle ended please ,btw if you never used tren before why dont u use tren ace since its a shorter ester and you can jump the gun if the sides gets too worse , whats your goal out of this cycle?

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03 Feb 2011 05:02 #60370 by Pumped
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Bakkid i think that your dose of test is low it should be 2 * 1ml a week ,and 300mg's a week of tren eth.Considering that you have done many cycles already.

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03 Feb 2011 09:30 #60377 by Bakkis
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Ok here are my previous cycles:
1st Cycle
10 mL 200 mg/mL Deca (200mg a week for 8 weeks)
100 tablets 5 mg Dianabol (10mg a day for 5 weeks)

2nd time around i doubled the dosage:
20 mL 200 mg/mL Deca 400mg a week for 10 weeks
200 tablets 5 mg Dianabol 20 mg a day for 8 weeks

3rd
10 mL 200 mg/mL Deca (10 weeks 1 ml a weeks)
10 mL 200 mg/mL Test (cypionate)(10 weeks 1 ml a weeks)

All the above were bulking cycles and got really good results. I have at least 6 months of not taking anything in between to let my body come back to normal levels.My last cycle was june 2010. So with this cycle i wanted to achieve a lean mass gain and drop my body fat abit lower as mentioned before. Im planning on getting to around 105 kg with 8 % bf.

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03 Feb 2011 09:55 #60380 by 00pump
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Bakkis, not to be funny but if your diet is spot on you may be able to achieve your current weight with that bodyfat, but to gain 11kgs and drop 5% bodyfat is asking for a bit much.

If I was you I wouldn't worry to much about your weight and use a mirror and see your changes, post up your diet and lets see if that is possible with what you wanting to eat.

However pumped is right and your doses are a little low, i'm all for safe cycles but thats asking a bit much.

Why not do 700mg Test + 500mg Deca or 600mg EQ for 14 weeks? Followed by the same PCT

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03 Feb 2011 10:06 #60385 by STUARTF
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If you want to drop 5% bodyfat you possibly might want to consider adding in some short esters towards the end of your cycle as well as some fat burners. From my experience I find it quite difficult to drop body fat when I'm running typical bulking steroids like test cyp/tren E/Deca etc.
I would possibly change to test prop in your last month and also run tren A, masteron prop or winstrol. This will harden your gains, keep water low and promote fat burning. You are already relatively low in BF so to reach below 10% your body will need all help that you can get.
Of course this is dependent on your diet and amount of cardio you are doing.

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03 Feb 2011 12:24 #60398 by Bakkis
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Here's my current diet. Im keeping my carbs for Mornings, pre and post workout and the rest of the day i keep them minimal. But i do not cut them out completely.
Meal 1:
2 cups oats,
1/2 of raisins,
1 cup of yogurt + handful of almonds,
1/2 cup of cottage cheese

Meal 2: Pre Workout
Protein shake, higer in carbs
BCAA's tabs
1 cup Sweet potatoe Mash
1 can of tuna

Meal 3: Post Work
250g chicken breast,
2 cups pasta,
2 apple,
1 cup yogurt + spoon of honey + almonds

Meal 4:
2 can of tuna,
1 - 2 cups broccoli

Meal 5:
Protein shake,
1 slice whole wheat bread
4 eggs 1 yolk 4 whites

Meal 6:
300g fish baked,
2 cup veggies,
1\2 cups rice

Meal 7:
Protein Shake
4 tbls peanut butter
2 apples

Meal 8:
'Muscle Techs' NitroTech Nightime 3 scoops
Omega 3 tabs + Multi Vitamin + B complex

This is the basic rundown, im tweaking as i go along

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03 Feb 2011 12:28 #60399 by Bakkis
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Sorry forgot to mention im doing about 30-45 min cardio 4-5 times a day 70-80% intensity.

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03 Feb 2011 12:31 #60400 by 00pump
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One of the better diets I have seen

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03 Feb 2011 13:18 #60401 by chemically enhanced
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4 eggs 1 yolk 4 whites :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

and

30-45 min cardio 4-5 times a day.........are you sure

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03 Feb 2011 13:54 #60403 by Rowan
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Bakkies that definitely is not a bad diet, although if i could change something i would drop the pre workout protein shake and shove it in meal 3. This is when you need your carbs the most. The pasta & chicken will take too long to digest and work into the system so I think a shake straight after rather than before is good.

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03 Feb 2011 14:22 #60406 by jackrabbit1
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00pump wrote: One of the better diets I have seen


I might have seen it in a amagazine somewhere. :)

Deca works for you - why dont stick to it? Tren - Nomad? reconsider.
1 gram test, 700 Deca.
Last 5 weeks - 80mg Winstrol orals on top.

But...... everyone should(wants to) try Tren sometime. Once again - 150/week is too low.

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03 Feb 2011 14:41 #60410 by Frikkie
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if the quantities are correct the diet looks good.
i think listen to pump and rather take the test with deca or equi at higher dosages and stay away from the tren for now, cos you actually only did one cycle (1st 2 is crap;)).
id say 2ml of the test you have (600mg a week) and around 500mg a week of deca or equi for 12-14 weeks. think you'll get much better results than the cycle you suggested plus you dont have to use tren yet. but if you do decide to go with the tren (which i do NOT suggest at this stage) go with the tren ace as roidolone suggested. good luck bud!:)

PS welcome to the forum!:)

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03 Feb 2011 14:51 #60415 by roidolone
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all seems to be in check ill just do a proper test cycle since your test in your previous cycles were a bit low it will look something like this
1-2 test prop frontload 150mgx3 (mon wed fri)
1-10 test cyp 500mg p/w
10-12 test prop backload 150mgx3 (mon wed fri)
1-12 proviron @40mg-60mg ed

13-14 clomid @ 50mg x2 ed
14-17 kessar @20mg ed
14-16 pregnyl @500iu x3 (mon wed fri)

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03 Feb 2011 14:57 #60416 by Frikkie
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jackrabbit1 wrote:

00pump wrote: One of the better diets I have seen


I might have seen it in a amagazine somewhere. :)

Deca works for you - why dont stick to it? Tren - Nomad? reconsider.
1 gram test, 700 Deca.
Last 5 weeks - 80mg Winstrol orals on top.

But...... everyone should(wants to) try Tren sometime. Once again - 150/week is too low.


you and your doses oom rabbit...!;) haha... (no disrespect)

i know low doses dont work for you so im very glad i dont have that same 'problem' otherwise i wouldnt be able to afford going on cycle ever!!!:)

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