2nd cycle q&a +log

stats:
184cm
84,7kg
bf:13.23% 2 weeks ago
age:21
researching substances:2 years
aas cycles done :1 idiotic one of Stanazol @50mg eod for8 weeks+kessar for pct @20mg
training experience:4 years, 3 years serious
calorie intake :2189 (to drop bf below +\-12 for now)
macro nutrient ratio : 45% protein 40% carbohydrates 15%fats

goal:
95kg with 7-9 %bf

plan:
drop to +-12% bf before march
begin cycle march and increase calories accordingly
end with pct 16 weeks later

cycle:
1-10 test. cyp. @165mg X3 p/w (mon; wed; fri)
1-2 test. prop. @150mg x3 p/w (mon; wed; fri)
8-12 proviron @25mg x2 p/d (morning ;afternoon)
10-12 test. prop. @150mg x3 p/w (mon; wed; fri)
13-14 clomid @50 mg x2 p/d
14-16 kessar @20mg p/d

thinking of adding hcg into pct but its my 1st proper cycle,i moved my initial test. prop dose up from 300mg p/w to 450mg p/w since i have 2000mg with me, so let me know what you guys think please

Thanks allot

bro 2189 at your weight to drop fat? ummm no thats far to low,u are probably slowing your metabolism down big time but who am i to sat.

add in some winstrol with the test prop and proviron at the end...that will do well...

@DJ
think my friend has a 20ml nomad lab vial i can get thats been standing for a year now? wil n dose 50 mg ed ?
must i add hcg what are your views on that?
i think i must mail you to fine tune the diet

Nomad Lab Winstrol: Just thinking about makes me cringe, prepare yourself for pain. If you are going to use it, make sure that you shake it well, after sitting for a year it will be separated into the suspension and water. Also check the expiry date. Good luck bro.

@stuart i used nomad winstrol for 8 weeks i know that pain to the point of getting used to it haha
i hope it has expired so i can buy a oil base like dcg to inject with the prop.
but then again the nomad is free

except for the diet everyting looks good. will also recommend 4weeks of winny at 50mg/day like dj said. nomad winny did nothing for me, just hurt like hell. if it hasn't expired you can take a larger dose and just drink it cos nomad is underdosed anyway and then buy proper winny for the rest.

@ frikkie my calories are low now i know i just want to lose that extra bit of fat then slowly increase to 3000 before the cycle then increase from there on n weekly basis to match weight

+ what are your guys views on hcg or will the serm's be sufficient?
will n need a AI on hand or not?

drink the winny...esp if its nomad...

increased calories to about 2500 bf% sitting at 12.5% , so im happy with that im just going to maintain this weight and do more cardio till the beginning of the cycle increasing calories slightly

still have to call my friend about the winny

and have to see my Dr. for a follow up on my knee operation ,when i go a bit over 90 degree bend it feels very weird ,its the 4 week since the op. and he just removed a small piece of meniscus so i cant figure out why it feels like this he said i can gradually put weight on in by the 3rd week im now on 80% efficiency but im not going to hammer away with out his feed back

seen the Dr. for a follow up on my knee operation went for a MRI ,i have a genetic defect ,the whole lateral meniscus moves into the knee joint ,he is going to anchor it apart ,hes going to a orthopedic conference in england and so is all the bright orthopedic surgeons in SA so im fucked till 11 march then a further 4 weeks for recovery ,i don't know what to do im in a real bad place right now i cant train legs or anything standing even driving is a challenge

Hey Roid.

Cycle looks good bru. You should see some really nice gains from that!

Just 1 thing - does no one else see a problem with the pct start time? Especially in light of DJ's most recent sticky in the PCT section? Will you have reached 3x the cyp half life
(36 days) by week 13?

Maybe input form 00Pump or DJ at this stage would be good.

Peace...

hey rowan

i don't know what to believe anymore i was going to edit the whole cycle to the specified times of the start time topic but ill wait for the guys to reach some sort of conclusion , meanwhile ill do some research myself and sort out my knee ,thanx for your input man i appreciate it allot

so swelling went down today,so i rode bike for 45min and had no pain because theres no lock movement ,i was thinking of commencing my cycle tomorrow and just do spinning every day as my leg workout for the first 6 weeks or until im fully recovered, what do you guys think will it be a waste not squatting or what ,its very difficult to keep starring at those test vials in the fringe every morning for the last 6.5 weeks , any advise welcome

final cycle:
1-10 test. cyp. @500mg X1 p/w (mon)
1-2 test. prop. @100mg x3 p/w (mon; wed; fri)
10-12 test. prop. @100mg x3 p/w (mon; wed; fri)
9-12 proviron @25mg x2 p/d (morning ;afternoon)
10-12 winstrol @50mg p/d

checked the pct start time

13-14 clomid @50 mg x2 p/d
14-17 kessar @20mg p/d

i want to know if i shoud do the following :
14-16 hcg@ 500iu eod
1-10 Anastrozole @ 0.2 mg eod

any advise would be greatly appreciated

i'm doing exactly the same cycle, only supertest instead of cyp. go for the hcg but don't think the anastrozole is necessary with this dose of test.

Rowan wrote: Hey Roid.

Cycle looks good bru. You should see some really nice gains from that!

Just 1 thing - does no one else see a problem with the pct start time? Especially in light of DJ's most recent sticky in the PCT section? Will you have reached 3x the cyp half life
(36 days) by week 13?

Maybe input form 00Pump or DJ at this stage would be good.

Peace...

Hey rowan, I did a quick calculation with what dj said and if im right his pct should start on day 89/90. That's 5/6 days after his last prop shot if his last prop shot is day 84.

So pct will start week 13, friday or saterday. I stand to be corrected tho.