How Did You Screw Up Your First Cycle?

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12 Mar 2011 16:56 #63215 by shaunrsa
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Mentioned this on another thread and thought it would be both interesting and informative. Usually the first cycle is the one you screw up (if any) and it's generally because you went into it with limited knowledge or bad advice.
With some of the questions you see posted here by first timers, especially the "Dbol Only Cycle" ;) type, makes me believe that a lot could be learned from how most of us screwed up the first time.

The question is basically this: Did you screw up your first cycle, and if so how?

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12 Mar 2011 17:05 #63217 by Empire
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winstrol injections once a week :P

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12 Mar 2011 17:08 #63218 by ABC01
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Thanks to the help i got from the guys on this forum and diet advice from DJ my first cycle was a massive success:)

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12 Mar 2011 17:44 #63223 by shaunrsa
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I basically fell victim to bro advice from a friend of a friend who also supplied me. I planned to run 400mg Sust and 500mg Decca a week with a kick start from Dbol at 40mg a day. He gave me Nolva for potential sides, and I was to use it for my PCT as well. I was planning to run it for 10 weeks

Well Decca Dick kicked in very quickly because the Test was a) not enough and b) it was shit product. The Decca was obviously ok though. As was the Dbol. I also suffered water bloat. The Nolva did jack shit to help me, and I became to say the least, pissed off.

I then started researching for myself and got hold of some Letro, which I then hopelessly overdosed on. Libido went down to absolute zero. At one stage I thought I had chemically castrated myself. :( I was wondering if I would ever have sex again.

Not one to give up on so important a matter, (to which you will, I'm sure, all concur) I started reading and asking all over the web, for hours and hours.

I then, thank God, found this site. After a great deal of help I got hold of some PGW test and upped my dosage to 600mg pw, dropped my Decca down to 300mg pw and tapered the Letro dose right down to .3mg EOD. I extended the Test cycle to run for another 6 weeks, (because it was like starting again basically with real Test). I ran the Decca for only 8 weeks in total.

I got hold of the hCG, Aromasin and Clomid some extra Nolva to do a proper PCT and managed to kind of save what could have been an even more disastrous first cycle.

This is what I learned:
Research, research, research, BEFORE starting any cycle.
Make sure you get gear from a reliable source and use a reliable brand.
Test is the basis for any cycle I will ever do.
Make sure you have an AI on hand before you start a cycle. In fact I will forever use an AI in small doses throughout any cycle, just as prevention.
Make sure you have your PCT planned, with the drugs available before you start your cycle.
LISTEN to guys with experience, the chances are they have also screwed up in the past. Their experience means that YOU don't have to.

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12 Mar 2011 17:50 #63225 by shaunrsa
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ABC01 wrote: Thanks to the help i got from the guys on this forum and diet advice from DJ my first cycle was a massive success:)


Geez, I wish I had met guys like DJ and Pump before I started. Needless to say I won't make those mistakes again. I hope newbies can learn from these mistakes.

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12 Mar 2011 17:51 #63226 by shaunrsa
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DJ wrote: winstrol injections once a week :P


Ha ha at what dose DJ? :laugh:

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12 Mar 2011 17:54 #63227 by vega5
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I can't really remember but I think it was 10mg Winstrol a day for 25 days.

Then I think it was 2 amps of Deca, sold to me by the HUGE trainer at my gym back then.

Then 250mg Nomad Cyp a week + 20mg D-bol per day

Then I started reading up on roids and got hooked and since then never missed a beat.

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12 Mar 2011 17:58 #63228 by shaunrsa
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vega5 wrote: I can't really remember but I think it was 10mg Winstrol a day for 25 days.

Then I think it was 2 amps of Deca, sold to me by the HUGE trainer at my gym back then.

Then 250mg Nomad Cyp a week + 20mg D-bol per day

Then I started reading up on roids and got hooked and since then never missed a beat.


Those doses probably did jack shit for you, but man you were JUICING! And ja, it's normally Decca or Dbol that's sold to you first lol :P

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12 Mar 2011 18:03 #63229 by vega5
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The Cyp cycle made me gain probably 15kg of water.

Looking back at it, it was some real dumb shit moves!

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12 Mar 2011 18:06 #63230 by shaunrsa
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Dbol also made me hold water, looked like the fuckin Michelin man, until I could get my hands on some Letro.

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12 Mar 2011 19:15 #63233 by roidolone
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winstrol inject 50mg 2xweek 8weeks total with kessar pct
dumb shit ass move if i could go back in time :'sal ek myself met n brood gooi'
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since then i have learned so much i don't know where to begin.
special thanks to the site and all the members on it the knowledge shared on this site is of the purest out there and without it i would probably still be lost

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12 Mar 2011 20:05 #63234 by tbone
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16 years old... Dbol only cycle... Whats PCT??? No idea of what i was doing man!

Without this forum i would be no where! Givin me courage to attemp my "first" propper cycle middle of this year.

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13 Mar 2011 10:06 #63239 by Yohimbe
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First cycle was 3 weeks of 30mg/day dbol, no pct :)
Actually all in all didn't turn out so badly, lost some fat on that, didn't gain much. seem fortunate on dbol that don't get water gain for some reason, but struggle with test, go figure.
But 30mg was too low to do much anyway.

Was only the grace of god though that that was all I had enough for, otherwise it would have been max doses with whatever could get my hands on. Youth is wasted on the young

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13 Mar 2011 10:56 #63241 by shaunrsa
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Exactly what I thought the common threads would be:
  1. Under dosed, single compound cycles, usually without Test
  2. Badly planned, or even zero PCT.
  3. Everything changed when we discovered this site.

Man, I love this place.:cheer: Of all the sites you can go to, and lets face it there are hundreds out there, this is the one place where you get 100% practical, no bullshit, to the point, real, working advice!
Keep the stories coming guys.

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13 Mar 2011 11:02 #63243 by shaunrsa
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Yohimbe wrote: First cycle was 3 weeks of 30mg/day dbol, no pct :)
Actually all in all didn't turn out so badly, lost some fat on that, didn't gain much. seem fortunate on dbol that don't get water gain for some reason, but struggle with test, go figure.
But 30mg was too low to do much anyway.

Was only the grace of god though that that was all I had enough for, otherwise it would have been max doses with whatever could get my hands on. Youth is wasted on the young


This is an absolute classic Yohimbe! :laugh: Amazing that it produced some result, well sort of... Imagine if you had found this site first...

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13 Mar 2011 11:06 #63244 by shaunrsa
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tbone wrote: 16 years old... Dbol only cycle... Whats PCT??? No idea of what i was doing man!

Without this forum i would be no where! Givin me courage to attemp my "first" propper cycle middle of this year.


Also a classic story. Teenager doing a Dbol only cycle... No PCT..... Mmmmm, where have I heard that before..... :P

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13 Mar 2011 17:23 #63272 by Roozer
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Test suspension 2ml a week hahaha with clen gel

As ek storm volg my, as ek omdraai skiet my, as ek sterwe wreek my, so help my God

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13 Mar 2011 19:42 #63293 by Bear
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I have not done my first cycle yet... so i am one of the lucky guys to have found DJ and the likes of all the guys here on this forum before damaging myself..:)
taking the time to learn and to gather all the correct advice i am sure i can become the perfect beast. safely and healthy!!

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13 Mar 2011 20:08 #63297 by shaunrsa
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Good post Bear, that's exactly the purpose of this site. To help guys achieve their goals safely. Guys like DJ and Pump and others have a ton of knowledge to share. Use them.
Good luck with your first cycle whenever you start it.

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14 Mar 2011 07:42 #63314 by Romp3L
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DJ wrote: winstrol injections once a week :P


Yep, and i did it at 1 ml....omfg. rofl

GOT SHREDDEDDDDD>...lame. jhaha

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14 Mar 2011 08:57 #63325 by STUARTF
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I did a deca and sust cycle but my deca dosage was like double the sust. I couldn't figure out why I had no libido because I had been told that all steroids give you this outrageous sex drive. Needless to say my girlfriend at the time was not very impressed.

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14 Mar 2011 09:26 #63331 by shaunrsa
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STUARTF wrote: I did a deca and sust cycle but my deca dosage was like double the sust. I couldn't figure out why I had no libido because I had been told that all steroids give you this outrageous sex drive. Needless to say my girlfriend at the time was not very impressed.


That was very similar to me. Way too little Test for the amount of Decca and plus the Test was shit to start with. I got Decca Dick so badly.
I had a very "hot to trot" girl friend at the time and geez, my life was a total misery.:(
Can laugh about it now, but at the time it was hell.

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14 Mar 2011 10:13 #63350 by Hard
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I landed up taking Spanish Anavar only cycle at 20mg a day.

The only thing I felt was a dent in my pocket :P

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15 Mar 2011 09:17 #63481 by spike
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well my first cycle wasnt too bad, 500mg sust and 300 deca, but pinned once a week! Thats 5ml into the glut.

Gains were pretty decent considering i had no clue what i was doin. However, no PCT whatsoever... Didnt know such a thing existed. Still managed to keep about 5kg

Um, but im scared of needles...

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22 Mar 2011 19:32 #63984 by ice-rip
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how i screwed up. hmmm. oh now i remember. i used nomad labs.

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