2nd cycle advice

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13 Mar 2011 15:34 #63264 by rowan1989
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Hi, new to the forum but glad to finally be associated with valued advice!
Been training for 4 years eating well, Age 23, height 1.75m, current weight 80kgs.

1st cycle consisted of:

week 1-4 Dbol 30mg/day
week 1-10 Test Cyp 250mg
week 12-14 Clomid 50mg/day & Nolvadex 40mg/day

Started the cycle at 70kgs, got to 84kgs by week 10.

My 2nd cycle is going to look like this:

week 1-4 Dbol 30mg/day
week 1-12 Test Enathate 300mg/week
week 1-10 Deca 350mg/week

Is it perhaps to soon to be adding deca to my cycle?
Test to deca ratio is not 2;1 but is it absolutely neccesary?
And what PCT should I be taking this time around?

Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated!!!

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13 Mar 2011 15:49 #63265 by Empire
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i would run a second cycle of test en at double the dose,and more dbol and run proviron instead of running the deca for now...
you really havent experienced gains just yet,test at 450-600mg a week is a good start point,third cycle look at adding in deca...

pct would be clomid and kessar for this cycle...

and ps yes running test at a 2:1 ratio or even 1.5:1 ratio is best otherwise you can get deca dick and your partner isnt gonna love u for that...

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13 Mar 2011 16:14 #63268 by rowan1989
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Thanks DJ! will take your advice and run my cycle that way instead.

Lastly, how much dbol and proviron would you recommend I run daily, and for how long?

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13 Mar 2011 16:45 #63270 by mike80
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Wow! 14kg from 250mg test per week is very good. Hopefully my 1st proper cycle will yield those kind of results. Well done man!

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13 Mar 2011 19:31 #63291 by Frikkie
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im with dj, drop the deca and up the test and go for proviron or even winny at the end.

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14 Mar 2011 09:43 #63338 by Rowan
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Hey bud.
Welcome to ASCOZA.

You put on 14kg running 250mg a week?? :huh:

Your diet must have been monster! I know guys who have run double that (myself included) and havent put that much on. How long ago was it and how much did you keep to date?

I think you're better off staying away from the 19nors for now. Especially if you're unsure of what pct to run.

Good luck in your final decision. :)

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14 Mar 2011 10:46 #63356 by Halfhuman08
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If u really really want to run the deca I wud say 400mg p/w is minimum for gains.then u gonna have to up the test to at least 600mg split into 2 shots per week test e.you can also up the Dbols to 40mg pd. Make dead sure of ur PCT and imo ur good to go;)

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14 Mar 2011 11:33 #63362 by rowan1989
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My cousin ran the same first cycle course that i did and also gained around 12kgs.
I thought that was normal for a first time cycle tho? i ran that course november last year till beginning of january this year. i dont want to hide the fact that we both bloated up quite hectically tho. I only lost 4kgs during my off cycle, was quite happy about that.

Thanks for the posts! really appreciate all the advise and comments

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