Equipoise or NPP?

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29 Mar 2011 18:45 #64455 by Diego
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hey guys, so im making a decision for my second cycle.
First cycle was test e frnt loaded with dbol. 12 weeks, gains were amazing. kept them too.

now for my second cycle which i am doing in May, i have two options. My goals are good quality lean mass. All input is welcome as to which cycle you guys reccomend. All input is appreciated as always, thanks guys!

The first option is:
week 1 to 12
injections 3x a week
100mg test prop
160mg super test
75mg NPP
50mg Masteron Prop
0.25mg A-dex 3x a week

week 10-16
Oral Winstrol 50mg daily
Proviron 50mg daily

week 18 start pct.

Second option is the Equipoise Powerhouse cycle posted in the sample cycle page
it consists of
Cycle:
3x PGW Equipoise (350mg x 10ml)
3x PGW SuperTest 320 (320mg x 10ml)
2x PGW Testosterone Prop (100mg x 10ml)
3x LP Proviron (20mg x 50)
3x LP Anavar (20mg x 50)
1x LP hCG (5000iu / 2ml SABAX)
1x LP Arimidex (2mg x 15ml)

PCT:
1x Ovidrel 250
1x LP Aromasin (20mg x 30)
1x LP Clomid (50mg x 15)
1x LP Nolvadex (20mg x 30)

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29 Mar 2011 18:56 #64458 by Empire
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u can start your pct at the end of week 16 bro,u at the end of the day u are using a small amount of long esters (150mg a week) so u can wait 12 days for them to be at a low enough level to start pct,so start pct at the end of the 16th week as the esters would've cleared by then.. i like the first cycle, up that a-dex if u have issues,maybe 0.5mg eod or 0.25mg ED

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29 Mar 2011 19:46 #64459 by jackrabbit1
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I also like the first one. Except i would do 150NPP and swop Winstrol for anapolon50.

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29 Mar 2011 21:16 #64462 by Diego
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ok cool sounds good, and even though i am using a small amount of anabolics do you think gains will still be good (of course diet will be good) or do you think I should increase the amount of test per week? My first cycle consisted of 600mg test enanthate per week. And also should i frontload with Dbol or something? or will that just sway away from my goals of lean mass?

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30 Mar 2011 07:24 #64470 by 00pump
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Erm not to be funny, but no way in hell would I run Anadrol after your base cycle and for 6 weeks, you looking to get quality gains and Anadrol will do nothing of the sort... All you asking for is trouble and I highly recommend you do not do that.

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30 Mar 2011 07:54 - 30 Mar 2011 08:01 #64476 by jackrabbit1
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Well - i ran it for 3 weeks at 100mg and it did WONDERS. That after a short break from doing 3 weeks Winstrol. The Winstrol fucked me up way more than A50. Or rather i felt worse.
I had zero sides and all the good. LP Anapolon 50 at 100mg/day for 6 weeks next time.
O, and that wat on top of Testoviron 1g/Deca 400mg/NPP 300mg/Proviron 100mg/day/Aromasin/T3.
I have learnt plent about what how my body reacts to the orals and could feel the progress and sides.
LP's A50 is my oral of choice at this stage. DBol/TBol dont come close. Winstrol does but i felt worse.

Starting battery of physicals next week while tapering down to HRT. Judgement on health reserved, but i can tell you that i have never looked and felt better.

www.steroid.com/Anadrol-50.php
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30 Mar 2011 08:06 #64478 by 00pump
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jack, you a freak of nature :)

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30 Mar 2011 08:07 #64480 by 00pump
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I run 50mg Anadrol and i'm pissing more blood than the blood coming out of an open wound

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30 Mar 2011 15:02 #64508 by Diego
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not planning on using anadrol at all!. Just a question, is the test in the first cycle enough? or should i increase the dosage of either the test or the NPP?

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30 Mar 2011 15:39 #64510 by 00pump
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Keep it simple bro, don't complicate things, in all honesty guys looking to bulk up may never need to use anything other than Testosterone every cycle they do. I use other drugs because my body doesn't react well to highly androgenic compounds, but thats just me.

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30 Mar 2011 16:14 #64516 by vlakkie
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Diego wrote: not planning on using anadrol at all!. Just a question, is the test in the first cycle enough? or should i increase the dosage of either the test or the NPP?

Week 1-5 600mg Testosterone weekly
Week 6-8 800mg Testosterone weekly
Week 9-10 1 gram Testosterone weekly

10 mg Aromasin daily with the goal of keeping Estradiol between 10pg/ml-25pg/ml. Only your blood work can confirm if you are in this range.

500iu HCG twice weekly


this will be my 1st cycle one day when im ready...
i kickstart this cycle with T-BOL and end it with anavar

thats just me and my 2cents

I will eat your soul if it has enuf protien...

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31 Mar 2011 07:19 #64546 by jackrabbit1
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I hate Anavar - dried up my elbows in 2 weeks which took months to recover.

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31 Mar 2011 10:35 #64607 by ABC01
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@ Jackrabbit: What kind of gains did you get with anadrol? I read that it gives quick increase in size/weight. Is this a "quality defined look" though. Does it make sense running it in the beginning of a 8 week short ester cycle when the aim is to get good quality lean muscle? How was your experience?

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31 Mar 2011 17:27 #64701 by jackrabbit1
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Everything plumped up. Mind/muscle connection got stronger. Pumps were great. using AI/Vits/Legalon etc so no bloat etc and therefore also no sides.

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