Equipoise & Proviron

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07 Apr 2011 12:38 #65165 by Mfezdro
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Hey Guys

Please have a look below at the next cycle I am planning. Any comments would be appreciated. You will see there is no Test in there. I need to make weight limits in sport and test bulks me up too much.
Goals in order of importance - Increase strength noticeably, gain min 3kg's lean mass, drop body fat by 2% (got diet going), not get any frikken sides!

Age - 37
Height - 6,4"
Weight - 102
B/F - 13%
Gym history - Been lifting regularly for 8 years. Weight has been from 92 kg's (I've seen more meat on a butchers pencil) to 116kg's, waaay too heavy for my liking.

Week 1-10 400mg Eq, broken into Equi 200 - Monday am/Thursday pm.
Week 1-10 40mg Proviron ED. (I'm putting this in to counter the Eq shutting me down, any better suggestions?)
Week 14 - Clomid 100mg/day/7 days
Week 15,16,17,18 - Nolvadex 20mg/day
So, besides any other points. Is 10 weeks too little for Equipoise, should I be doing 12 weeks. I haven't done Eq before so not sure about it.
If I up the Eq to 12 weeks should I run the Proviron for 12 weeks or can I just run it from week 2 of the Eq, assuming there is no better choice?
Is 3 full weeks a long enough break to start PCT with Eq?

All comments appreciated.
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07 Apr 2011 13:22 #65168 by 00pump
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12 / 16 weeks for EQ, your proviron dose might need to raise as the time goes on so rather start it off at 20 and work your way up...

Time to start PCT is great 4 weeks after the cycle, however at your age you going to need a solid PCT including Ovidrel and Aromasin... I also find 600mg of EQ MUCH better than 400mg, so I would increase the dose.. Once a week shots is all that is needed you do not need to shoot twice a week unless you want to, it will not stabalise the hormone levels any further.

And bro, to be 100% honest, if you can take in 50mg of test a week, it would be awsome, that is a natural amount your body would create. However I have done many EQ and Proviron cycles alone and its great...

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07 Apr 2011 14:23 #65178 by Mfezdro
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Hi 00pump, thanks for the comments, appreciate it.

Point taken on Proviron and on PCT. That looks like Doctari's pct, so I'll use that.

I think I will go to 600mg Eq, in one shot, thats 3ml's then, is it not too much in one hit?

Did you mean 500mg test?

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07 Apr 2011 14:37 #65181 by 00pump
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No 50mg of test a week is similar to that of a person in his middle 20's... So you getting in the same amount of test you would, it's just to prevent any sides from low test. Remeber proviron will not raise testosterone only work with free testosterone..

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07 Apr 2011 15:58 #65191 by Mfezdro
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Got it 00pump thanks.

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07 Apr 2011 17:15 #65193 by Empire
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ummm just a question,what brand of equi are u using,i hope not nomad...
i would look at using pgw equi, and using 500mg a week,and i would run some form of test ever 300mg of test prop will be tops bud.... maybe 150mg if u are that worried....u will thank me for that....

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08 Apr 2011 07:35 #65208 by 00pump
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Hey DJ I don't think he can run test, he bulks to much and wont make his weight limit in his sport.

Then again, I can get very swollen on EQ due to my increase in appetite, and I must eat.

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08 Apr 2011 08:31 #65209 by Mfezdro
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HI dj & 00pump

Thanks for the help. DJ I was going to use the A labs version dosed at 200mg x 2, I'll go with PGW but they dose at 350mg/ml.
The only reason I'm running proviron is to keep the system running. Realistically if I ran 100mg of test prop (I see A labs have a 100mg dose) that would remove the need for proviron then?

I've never used such a low amount of test, I wonder if it would really have that big an impact on my size? If I pick up a total of 5-6kg's LBM including the test prop, along with losing the 2% body fat, that puts me in a possible position to cut to weight limits. I'm thinking maybe I should drop the Proviron and look at the test option then?

Thanks again for the input.

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08 Apr 2011 09:02 #65211 by 00pump
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I wouldn't use prop on a long ester cycle, I see it as pointless, get cyp, and inject half a mill a week or even a mill, 200/250mg. Then you can keep once a week shots, 1 ml cyp, 1 and a half ml EQ PGW. thats 2 and a half ml a week..

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08 Apr 2011 12:27 #65225 by Animal
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Hi,

while on the Topic of. EQ ..

Mate asking me. Im asking the Pro's

EQ and Wini.. Cycle. Similar to above. Just no Provi.


Will EQ and win . appear on drug tests. for work .. They in Construction etc.

Thanks in advance . . .

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08 Apr 2011 12:52 #65229 by Mfezdro
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Hey Animal

I may be wrong but my understanding is that they need to do a steroid specific test to pick it up, these test are quite expensive, not like your standard company drug test which looks for weed, coke etc. If they don't do specific testing they won't pick it up, as I said thats how I understand it.

Another thing, EQ shows up in AAS tests for a long time, I think around 5 months, bear that in mind.

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08 Apr 2011 12:55 #65230 by Mfezdro
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Pump thanks, I think I'm going to go that route and leave the proviron out completely, then do Doctari's PCT.

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08 Apr 2011 12:56 #65231 by Mfezdro
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Pump/DJ

One more thing, would I run the cyp for the entire duration of the Eq being 12 weeks?

Thanks

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08 Apr 2011 13:55 #65233 by 00pump
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Yes

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