2nd Cycle advice

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18 Apr 2011 14:16 #65676 by W.Daly
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well, time has come for my second cycle ;)

these were my stats at the start of my first cycle

Age 25
Height 173cm
weight 74kg
bf 14%

then came 10 weeks of sust @ 500mg per week. with week 1-4 front load of dbols.

stats after...
weight 82kg
bf 15%

the first cycle ended at the end of dec 2010. my current weight is 79kg and bf 14%.

now im planning my next cycle...
since sust worked well for me, im thinking of doing a 10 week cycle of sust n deca (500mg sust and 300mg deca per week)
I would follow Doctari's PCT.

i just need some advice whether my dosages are correct for a 2nd cycle, or would i have too bump up sust to 750mg per week.

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18 Apr 2011 15:26 #65691 by shaunrsa
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It seems you did well on 500mg Sust last time. I don't think you need to go as high as 750mg. I would maybe bump it to 600mg pw. The Decca dose is a little on the low side, maybe 350mgs to 400mgs pw might be better. It is however very suppressive, (Decca Dick) so if in doubt, err on the low side. You might want to run some Proviron as well.

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19 Apr 2011 14:23 #65741 by W.Daly
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lol...

im also abit concerned about decca dick. my chic must not know im on juice, laying low would not work for me.
so, having proviron ED should prevent this problem, right?

another quick question, my PCT should start approximately 54 days after my last shot of sust, will 10 days of 2 x 50mg clomid followed by 3 weeks of kessar @ 20mg per day be ok?

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19 Apr 2011 14:36 #65742 by 00pump
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Ja, however during that time I would use some short acting steroid, winstrol, primo, or anavar, run that for those 54 days, then go straight into PCT.

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20 Apr 2011 08:22 #65806 by W.Daly
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thats sounds like a good idea, to drain out the excess water! but wont it affect my gains made while on course?

another thing, how many mg proviron will i require ED?

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20 Apr 2011 10:58 - 20 Apr 2011 11:02 #65857 by shaunrsa
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W.Daly wrote: thats sounds like a good idea, to drain out the excess water! but wont it affect my gains made while on course?

another thing, how many mg proviron will i require ED?


It's a bridge between the end of the cycle and the start of PCT. Can't effect your gains negatively at all.

Proviron @ 50 to 80mg a day would be the dose I would go for. Anything less than 50mg pd would be a waste of time imo. Although some guys do run it at lower doses.

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20 Apr 2011 11:15 #65863 by W.Daly
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thats awesome. thanks for all the advice Shaun and Pump, much appreciated.

my cycle is going to look like this...

im considering week 1-4 : 30mg dbols ED (if i add this in, will i need to add anything to my PCT?)
week 1-10 : Sust 500mg
week 1-8 : decca 300mg (just so that most of the deca halfs out while still shooting sust)
week 10-14 : winstrol tabs (1 ED)
week 15-19 : PCT as above.

also proviron ED.

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20 Apr 2011 12:11 #65871 by shaunrsa
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Boet, I don't have my PCT calculator in front of me, but based on 3 x the half life of the longest ester, I think you might be starting your PCT a bit early?

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21 Apr 2011 08:54 #65917 by W.Daly
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yup, your right, i should be starting pct on week 17, lol thanks bud
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