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10 May 2011 18:54 #66783 by machine
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As much help as possible please , I would consider myself a novice, this was recomende by an expert an this is how i understand it.

I have come off my last course weighing 90kg and was happy as a pig in shit. But then after pct( clomid, hcg and kessar) dropped down to 87. then after getting sick I am now on 85.4 kg, my body fat is on 23.2% , my height 1.74m and I am 29 yrs old. It is my goal to get as big as possible, but for now just up to 92/93kg on this course.

So this is what I got

20ml super test 320 PGW
10ml tren e 150 PGW
10ml equip 320 PGW
50 * 10mg OC d bols
10* 20mg OC proviron

and this is what I think, I want to run for 15 weeks so I will have to get more stock but anyways, my table in word did not work i hope this will suffice

Mon
Tue
wed
Thur
Fri
Sat
sun

1ml s test+ 1ml tren+50mgdbol
1ml equip+50mgdbol
1ml s test+1ml tren+50mgdbol
1ml equip+50mgdbol
1ml s test+1ml tren+50mgdbol


1ml s test+ 1ml tren+50mgdbol
1ml equip+50mgdbol
1ml s test+1ml tren+50mgdbol
1ml equip+50mgdbol
1ml s test+1ml tren+50mgdbol


1ml s test+ 1ml tren
1ml equip
1ml s test+1ml tren
1ml equip
1ml s test+1ml tren


1ml s test+ 1ml tren
1ml equip
1ml s test+1ml tren

1ml s test+1ml tren


1ml s test+ 1ml tren

1ml s test+1ml tren

1ml s test+1ml tren


1ml s test+ 1ml tren

1ml s test+1ml tren

1ml s test+1ml tren


Stopping the dbols here after six weeks






























































Then gonna break for 1 week






Start full pct here

I want to know where I should add the proviron tabs that I have? Or should I save them and get more and add them where?

I would also like to add aromasin or anti est cause I am prone to gyno, what do you suggest and where and when should I add it?

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10 May 2011 18:58 #66784 by Empire
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bud... i would get that body fat % down to close to 12% u are gonna add quite a bit more fat on to the frame doing a cycle now!

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10 May 2011 21:33 #66799 by machine
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ok well that was done on a healthenator machine, i will do a skinfold caliper test tommoro and confirm, its probably more like 18 %,

What do you think of the cycle breakdown

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11 May 2011 07:17 #66802 by Empire
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well it came out looking like crap so cant really see,did u copy and paste off a spread sheet?how many cycles have u done before?

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11 May 2011 08:29 #66808 by Koe007
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Tren 15 weeks way to long
Also PGW Equi is 350mg.
What is your cycle history?

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11 May 2011 14:50 #66843 by machine
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yeah dj i was on word then i inserted a table and copied it to here, i have done about 4 cycles over the last 10 months, my last course i started with 3ml equipoise, 3 ml t prop, 3ml t eth, 3 ml tren150 for 4 weeks then moved to 750 sa sus / week for 3 weeks and i had great results. then i went on full pct and its been 7bweeks since pct end.

Koe 007 why is tren for 15 weeks way to long if you keep the 100mg of test going with it?

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11 May 2011 15:00 #66844 by 00pump
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4 cycles in the last 10 months, and then you speak about long acting esters like eq... Doesn't add up.

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11 May 2011 15:02 #66846 by Trensetta
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Wow 4 cycles in 10 months. . . .sounds to me like definately not enough down time! i do a maximum of two cycles a year consisting of 12 weeks on 12 weeks off. no offense bud but your system must be taking one hell of a whack!!i reckon stay off gear for a while and get ur bf% down then consider a bulking cycle. definately go get bloodwork done and get ur test checked out. just my two cents worth.

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11 May 2011 15:05 #66848 by Koe007
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Reason being is that Tren is very Toxic and harsh on the system especially given your cycle history. I would only use Tren when competing, the side effects like bad sleep, Tren cough, Liver and kidney toxicity over that period would out weigh the benefits.

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12 May 2011 21:49 #66951 by machine
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@koe007- how bad could the toxicity be , i feel the strongest when taking tren,but i shut down the hardest. i want to add an anti est in somwhere and am not sure how and when to add in the proviron.
also the d bol is 10mg every 4 hrs or 20mg morning and the 30mg before training.

@trensetta- i just started my course .i cant stop now. rather advise me to be as safe and effective as possible. will it help to get blooods done whilst on cycle. what should test level be at normaly?

@00pump- what do you meanby that? that i should not know about a long acting ester at this stage or that it wass silly for me to add it to the course.

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12 May 2011 22:34 #66961 by machine
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sorry about starting thread with hel, just read the rules now

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12 May 2011 23:54 #66963 by Yohimbe
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Pump means a long estered cycle normally lasts 12 weeks or three months.
You say you've done 4 cycles, so unless some of them were very short, 4 cycles would take 12 months to complete back to back

Even if you ran shics at 8 week cycles, that would be 8 months straight, so how long were your previous cycles?

DJ is right-if you run high test doses at a higher bodyfat with dbol, you'll ballon up but gain a lot of bodyfat-the test converts to estrogen and if you're bodyfat is already high you will be more susceptible to the estrogenic effects-gaining bodyfat and gyno/pseudogyno

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13 May 2011 16:25 #67030 by machine
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so then how do i keep body % down ans where can i add proviron?

how do you take 50mg d bol a day like how best to split up the dose?

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13 May 2011 16:29 #67032 by Empire
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you diet down,do some cardio and then look at doing your cycle.

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13 May 2011 22:02 #67045 by machine
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lol, i have already started my cycle and would like to go forward from here as best i can.

what would you advise please

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13 May 2011 22:19 #67048 by machine
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@dj are you cut squirrel from the other forum?

how do you take dbol and proviron? or how soon can you start taking proviron to aid your cycle?

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14 May 2011 10:32 #67058 by Empire
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yes i am cutsquirrel from the ME. dbol split up during the day,1 every 4-6 hours,same it the proviron,run proviron through out the cycle.

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14 May 2011 10:34 #67059 by machine
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how much proviron / day 20mg?

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14 May 2011 10:35 #67060 by machine
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thank you

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14 May 2011 10:39 #67061 by Empire
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40-60mg a day

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14 May 2011 10:44 #67062 by machine
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ok can i take it all at once on the morn or do i split up doses like i do with the d-bol, d bol is fine at 50mg per day right?

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14 May 2011 11:01 #67064 by Empire
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dude i answered your question about 3 posts up.... yea 50mg is fine.
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14 May 2011 11:10 #67065 by machine
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ok thank for the advise

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24 May 2011 15:14 #67489 by machine
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@dj-ok bf% is 9.5% so its all good eh cuz?

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25 May 2011 09:46 #67519 by Koe007
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I have come off my last course weighing 90kg and was happy as a pig in shit. But then after pct( clomid, hcg and kessar) dropped down to 87. then after getting sick I am now on 85.4 kg, my body fat is on 23.2% , my height 1.74m and I am 29 yrs old. It is my goal to get as big as possible, but for now just up to 92/93kg on this course.

@dj-ok bf% is 9.5% so its all good eh cuz?

In just over 2 weeks you came from 23.2% b/fat to 9.5%.
What diet have you been on I came from 15% to 9% in 6 months of hard dieting and recently lots of cardio?

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