Suggested cycle- thoughts?

Hi -any advice/ help on this following cycle will be greatly appreciated.

This will be the first time I've taken steroids. I am 5ft9, and am currently 70kg. Not a very big guy to begin with. I ideally would like my gains to be proportionate to my natural size.

3 x Sustanon250 per week (4 week cycle)
Then:
2 x Testoviron250 per week (8 week cycle)
2 Proviron tablets daily for entire duration of cycle
PCT: Nolvadex and Clenbuterol for 4 weeks.

Individually I have researched and read up on the above items, but the dosages recommended here seem to be quote excessive. Any thoughts/ ideas/ help?

Cheers

Its your 1st cycle so keep it simple. Stick to 1 ester and go 400-500mg per week. Proviron is a great addition to any cycle but personally i would not take less than 60mg/day. Extend cycle to 12 weeks and beef up your PCT with clomid/nolvadex/hcg. This will cover good base for a good recovery. Keep letro on hand because you dont know if you are gyno sensitive or not.

my 2c

Pardon my ignorance-1 Ester being?
Gyno sensitivity?

Newbie_ct wrote: Pardon my ignorance-1 Ester being?
Gyno sensitivity?

1 ester = 1 type of steroid or single type of steroid Expample Test Enantate or Test Cypionate. Sust250 has 4 different types of testosterone's in one blend.

Gyno sensitivity = if you are sensitive to the quick raising of test levels injected, it causes fatty tissues and breast tissue build-up under and around the nipples.... what you would call "bitch tits". Nolvadex is often used to "counter" the side effect of Gyno

That cycle looks fine to me.

The short esters in the sustenon act as a frontload. No need for further complications.

Get your diet in order.

Hi, What is your age and how does your diet look?
Im sorry I don't think over a gram of Test for your first cycle is wise especially at 70kg. You do not know how your body will respond to such high doses. Also the long acting Esters at such a high dose will take you a long time to recover should you experience any side. I agree with ABC01 keep it simple 500mg/week single Ester.

My Bad didn't read the part which said then Testoviron :whistle:
I would lower sust dose to 2ml/week then continue Testoviron as stipulated, agree with JR no need to complicate it.

I'd strongly suggest reading the articles on this site; learn them, study them...it worries me a bit that you don't know what gyno is or what esters refer to. I'm by no means an expert, I just recently started my first cycle, but seriously, do your research; I'm glad I did before I started and I promise that you will be too!

Peace

I have to agree with devildriver , it is a problem if you do not know what gyno prone is , it shows that you do not completely understand what side effects are involved in steroid use , look i am really no expert either , and i also jumped into thing in the past and even my current pct wasn thought through , look you have a lot of experienced okes and okes with a lot of knowledge on this forum , ask questions , and it wont hurt to do a little more research on this (i wish i had)

anyway just my 2c

To SLEON, and Devildriver, as well as all others who have replied. All help is greatly appreciated.
It will be my first cycle, and I am aware that I am by no means ready for my first cycle. I have done a fair amount of reading but as it's my first time into this, terms are still quite overwhelming. This forum has been a great help so far. I'm in no hurry to just jump in. So thanks guys.

Newbie_ct wrote: To SLEON, and Devildriver, as well as all others who have replied. All help is greatly appreciated.
It will be my first cycle, and I am aware that I am by no means ready for my first cycle. I have done a fair amount of reading but as it's my first time into this, terms are still quite overwhelming. This forum has been a great help so far. I'm in no hurry to just jump in. So thanks guys.

I know what you mean, bud, there's a lot involved, took me about 6+ months of reading and researching before I jumped on this first cycle! In my mind, there are just far to many risks involved that you can avoid almost completely just by knowing what to do to prevent the side effects and making sure that you have the right meds on hand to counteract them with.

As a lot of the guys on this and other forums strongly suggest, keep your first cycle nice and simple so you know how your body reacts to the different compounds. For a first cycle you will grow nicely off of a basic Test Cyp/Dbol cycle as long as your diet is in place and your training is on point. Personally, I went for this and so far I'm very, very happy. Next cycle I might add in some Equi or Deca but for now just Test with a Dbol kickstart for the first 4 weeks is an ass kicker!

Good luck, bro, keep us posted when you decide to run your cycle!

SLEON wrote: look you have a lot of experienced okes and okes with a lot of knowledge on this forum , ask questions , and it wont hurt to do a little more research on this (i wish i had)

anyway just my 2c

Agreed here, a lot of the guys on this forum really know their shit and are always happy to give solid advice. Just to name a few, 00pump, DJ, admin and Netro (sorry if I've left anyone out!) are boarders that I've learned a lot from and have great respect for on this forum...listen to what they have to say, you will learn tons from their posts!

Good to see u are willing to learn more , before jumping into things , thre is no rush , i am sure there are a lot of guys who just jumped into using juice , and did not do the propper research on it, and regret it , like i said i did exactly the same (thank heavens i found this forum) and with the help of DJ i got a propper pct in oreder , so my next cycle will be way better , and propperly thought through

I am also going to get a propper diet from DJ, you should maybe look at that aswell

good luck bro

Newbie_ct wrote: To SLEON, and Devildriver, as well as all others who have replied. All help is greatly appreciated.
It will be my first cycle, and I am aware that I am by no means ready for my first cycle. I have done a fair amount of reading but as it's my first time into this, terms are still quite overwhelming. This forum has been a great help so far. I'm in no hurry to just jump in. So thanks guys.

And when you are done........ come back and do that exact cycle.

Tom Platz legs, nice Jack!

Week 1 - 10 > 500mg testoviron
Week 1 - 4 > dbol 40mg everyday
Week 1 - till end of ur pct > proviron 40 or 50mg per day

PCT as stated above.

Good diet with that and u will be in the best shape ever. Seen it with my own 2 eyeballs!

Use the money for what would of been for the sust to get food for ur diet coz jayz it aint cheap.

Netro wrote: Tom Platz legs, nice Jack!

Waddaya mean Tom's legs?!?!? i've been busy! :whistle:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Netro wrote: Tom Platz legs, nice Jack!

Waddaya mean Tom's legs?!?!? i've been busy! :whistle:

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