Planning for my first cycle

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04 Jun 2011 19:06 #68122 by Eidolon
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Hi guys,

My first cycle is still some way off, pending me reaching my target weight of 110kg and/or 15% BF. I'm 1.81m tall, and currently weigh 125kg, dropping fast on a keto diet.

This gives me more than enough time to refine my first cycle, and gather the gear I require. I already have plenty of bulk :P which is why I'd like to focus on gaining lean mass that will be retained post cycle, and plan to use methenolone enanthate, boldenone undecylenate and testosterone enanthate stacked like so:
WeekTestovironEquipoisePrimobolan
1500mg200mg
2500mg200mg
3500mg200mg
4600mg200mg
5600mg200mg
6600mg200mg
7100mg200mg300mg
8100mg200mg300mg
9100mg200mg300mg
10100mg200mg300mg
11100mg200mg300mg
12100mg200mg300mg

I'll hook up with DJ for a diet to compliment the cycle, and would appreciate any crit or comments.

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04 Jun 2011 19:59 #68124 by Empire
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I would run the only testoviron for 12weeks not the equi and primo,and I wouldn't drop the dosage at all...run 500mg for 12weeks solid

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04 Jun 2011 20:26 #68129 by Eidolon
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DJ wrote: I would run the only testoviron for 12weeks not the equi and primo,and I wouldn't drop the dosage at all...run 500mg for 12weeks solid


I initially planned to run test and equi, but changed that after reading the comments in Llewellyn's book, from which I took this cycle:

This is a 3-month non-liver-toxic cycle that has 2 distinct phases, mass and lean mass/cutting.The first 6 weeks of training and diet are focused on mass building. Significant estrogenicity will be present in these weeks, and may necessitate the use of tamoxifen or an aromatase inhibitor such as anastrozole to prevent gynecomastia and excessive water retention. Estrogen maintenance drugs may be reduced or possibly eliminated after the start of phase 2, which focuses on increasing the androgen to estrogen ratio and solidifying the muscle mass. A maintenance dosage of testosterone remains during this second phase, in a effort to prevent sexual dysfunction or loss of libido, which often occurs with the use of predominantly anabolic steroids alone.

How about binning the primo, and running 500mg and 400mg equi solid for 12 weeks?

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05 Jun 2011 16:25 #68197 by 00pump
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Primo is a long ester, you need to run it through the whole cycle, unless you using ace.. 200mg eq is not enough, stick to test only...

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05 Jun 2011 17:20 #68199 by Eidolon
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00pump wrote: Primo is a long ester, you need to run it through the whole cycle, unless you using ace.. 200mg eq is not enough, stick to test only...


Done. Thanks for the advice guys.

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