PGW Deca and Test

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25 Jul 2011 12:08 - 25 Jul 2011 12:33 #71401 by fiekie112
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Hi Gents.

Just needed some info/help.
Age=32
Weight=82
Gyming regular 3 years.

Ok so here goes ive been struggling to gain good solid muscle for years. last year i decided to go on a course od Dbol(british dragon) 5mg and Cypionate. I started off with with nomad lab and had good gains went up to 86 kgs but then could only get evolve cyp 100mg/ which did nothing. ive also tried evolve Dbols in Febuary but didnt do much. after reading i realise ive been using the wrong brands :angry: .

i want to start a cycle of PGW deca and a good testosterone, but not sure which test to use( any ideas welcome).
still looking but cant seem to find PGW anywhere. Not even the big guys in the gym. All i can get is nomad and evolve :angry: dammit.

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25 Jul 2011 12:56 #71410 by Mr_SA
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Need more info on the dosages of your last course.

The Nomad Deca would be fine... Or try get hold of the Axio Brand 9Ask around your gym)

As your second cycle... i wouldnt be going onto Deca as yet...
A good course of Test Eth @ 2ml a week for 8 - 10 weeks With a front load of Dianabol and a solid PCT Should give you what you looking for...
And after that course... i would then look into a Deca/Sust Cycle.

Also, please post your current diet up?
This is probably where you find will be your weak point... as with all the steroids in the world... you will not get results if your diet is not right.

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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26 Jul 2011 00:43 #71457 by fiekie112
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I was using 500mg cypionate per week(twice a week) for 10 weeks.
Dbols week 1 -4 at 20mg.

After week 5 when i started using the evolve gear,the results kinda slowed down.
Im thinking it was fake and from the feedback ive read onsite i would rather steer clear from Evolve.


finding it hard though to find someone with PGW or Axious. Found a guy on Gumtree but hes a scam.
I see he scammed a few guys here , lucky i didnt fall for it. Will keep looking out for big guys at gym :sick:

Eating.......mmmmmm.......
Ok i dont weigh and count calories but can tell you what i eat.
8:30 --Jungle oats or tasty wheat or Sandwiches
11:00 -- 3 scoops Evox 5XL
1:30 -- Anything from Chicken ,Eggs, Tuna, Pasta or Sandwiches
16:00 -- 2 Scoops Evox 5XL
!8:30 -- Anything from Chicken , steak, pasta or Curry(Ya i know)
21:00 -- 200g Yoghurt + fruit
23:00 -- Evox Protein shake


I work night shifts so sleep at 1am and 3am every other week.
average about 7 hours sleep per night.

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26 Jul 2011 06:49 #71460 by Empire
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ok with your diet i can see why you have been stuggling to pick up decent muscle mass for years, the fact that you dont measure anything is the problem and not counting calories and weighing out your food is another no no,how do u know where you are going wrong if you dont know how much u are eating on a daily basis, with out weighing everything your calorie intake will vary day to day so you will not know where you are going wrong...but i must say you are not getting in enough solid protein, your breakfast needs protein,your yoghurt and fruit should be dumped and u need to get more solid food in..
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26 Jul 2011 09:25 #71470 by fiekie112
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Dunno if theres a thread about dieting , didnt see one but could you suggest anything.
If i could see what an average BB's diet looks like im sure i could build from there.

Also i gy with my cousin who seems to grow but we practically eat similar so i suspect that i have a fast matabolism.
Would a dietician be able to confirm this or advise what my daily intake should look like to grow.?

Thanks for help

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26 Jul 2011 13:21 - 26 Jul 2011 13:30 #71497 by Thesner
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TO DJ, THANX MAN I'VE JUST STARTED AND I LIKE YOUR COMMENTS AND THANX FOR THE ADVICE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU FOR HELP AS WELL - I SAW KEO'S TRANSFORMATION AND ALL IS VERY GOOD!!

I'M 7 WEEKS OUT OF MY FIRST NOVICE COMP AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT MY CYCLE AND DIET?

WELL IM 89KG
HEIGHT 1.79CM
AGE 29

DIET:

BREAKFAST

80G ALLBRAN FLAKES AND 3EGGWITES AND 1 HOLE EGG

MEAL 2

200G CHICKEN 140G CARBS

MEAL 3

SAME AS MEAL 2

MEAL 4

200G CHICKEN AND A APPLE

MEAL 5

9 EGG WHITES

MEAL 6

200G FISH OR CHICKEN


CYCLE

2.5 UI'S GENTROPIN EVERY DAY @ NIGHT

MASTERON
300MG TUESDAY
100MG THURSDAY

CYT 3 - 2 MORNINGS EVERY DAY
T3 - 3 MORNINGS EVERY DAY
I'M LOOKING TO COMPETE ON STAGE AROUND 82KG?

PLEASE CAN YOU HELP
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26 Jul 2011 15:01 #71504 by Empire
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Your diet needs a lot of work,don't think u are eating enough to be honest,also that's a lot of t3 u are taking and not enough anabolics for that amount...u also need to post up photos,also how much cardio are u doing?d

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26 Jul 2011 15:08 #71506 by Empire
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fiekie112 wrote: Dunno if theres a thread about dieting , didnt see one but could you suggest anything.
If i could see what an average BB's diet looks like im sure i could build from there.

Also i gy with my cousin who seems to grow but we practically eat similar so i suspect that i have a fast matabolism.
Would a dietician be able to confirm this or advise what my daily intake should look like to grow.?

Thanks for help


No u don't have enough calories or protein in your diet.look in the diet and contest prep section and read dieting 101

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28 Jul 2011 10:16 #71615 by fiekie112
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No u don't have enough calories or protein in your diet.look in the diet and contest prep section and read dieting 101[/quote]



Ok so i will be starting a course in September. I will definately change my Diet to more solid proteins in aswell as carbs
Ive given up on PGW or Axious and have to settle for Evolve but my question is this. A few people advise not to use Deca in a second cycle, but what if i use low dosages maybe like 100mg pw. i will probably be using Sustanon and kickstart with dbols. Also are there anyone who actually that got good results from Evolve. i havent really heard of any and compared to the nomad i used in my first cycle i was a bit dissapointed with Evolve.
rce
PCT will probably be Doctaris PCT unless advised otherwise or i cant source everything.

Thanks in advance

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28 Jul 2011 10:23 #71618 by Koe007
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100mg/week deca will do absolutely nothing for you. If you wanna do Deca imo min 400mg/week and 600mg/week Test.
Why use something that did nothing for you again and waste hard earned money on something that is underdosed and ineffective, why risk it.

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28 Jul 2011 10:39 #71621 by fiekie112
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Koe007 wrote: 100mg/week deca will do absolutely nothing for you. If you wanna do Deca imo min 400mg/week and 600mg/week Test.
Why use something that did nothing for you again and waste hard earned money on something that is underdosed and ineffective, why risk it.



Im really 2 minded about evolve to be honest. in all fairness the Nomad Cypionate was 250mg/ml compared to the Evolve which was 100mg/ml. It could be that it was a lower dosage or just fake. i checked the evolve website but they dont have cypionate 100mg/ml.

From your response it seems you havent heard much good from them. Unfortunately Evolve is all i can find but ya you right, why spend hard earned money on gear most likely to be ineffective.

back to the drawing board then.

Thanks Koe007

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22 Aug 2011 03:30 - 22 Aug 2011 05:36 #73515 by kesi157
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Hi dj a friend sed that u cud help. My e mail is . Thanks
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