Should I add winny or var?

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17 Aug 2011 19:57 - 17 Aug 2011 20:00 #73224 by Cycleman
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Hi all
I’m currently in my 3rd week of my cycle. The cycle is going very good. My diet is dialed in and I have gained 8lbs and I can actually see my body changing. Awesome!!

I’m running the following

1 – 4 Tbol 40mg
1 – 10 test e 600mg per week
2 – 6 proviron 40mg
6 – 10 proviron 60 mg

PCT
nolva, Clomid

My question…
Would adding winny or var for the last 4/5 weeks be a good idea? Or should I just see this one through as is?

Stats
36yr
112kg
1.83m
This is my first cycle.

I also have Letro at hand and have been taking liver tabs from day 1
Last edit: 17 Aug 2011 20:00 by Cycleman.

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17 Aug 2011 20:03 #73225 by SNOK1986
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I would run winni as anavar takes about 5 weeks to kick in.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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17 Aug 2011 21:20 #73229 by SLEON
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I would run the winni to bridge to pct , and also run the proviron to pct

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17 Aug 2011 21:53 #73232 by vega5
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Calculate back from your PCT start date and start using the Winny 4-6 weeks before then! Will work wonders!!! Also run the Proviron till the day before PCT, you'll really love the results.

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18 Aug 2011 09:52 #73249 by Cycleman
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vega5 wrote: Calculate back from your PCT start date and start using the Winny 4-6 weeks before then! Will work wonders!!! Also run the Proviron till the day before PCT, you'll really love the results.

Thanx Vega....
With this being my first cycle, is it OK adding another compound?

What is a good dosage for winny and which is best, the oral or injectable?

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18 Aug 2011 10:12 #73250 by STUARTF
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Rather keep your first cycle simple, so stick to what you have.

Run injectable winny at 50mg/day (1ml/day).

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"It's simple, if it jiggles, it's fat."- Arnold Schwarzenegger

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18 Aug 2011 12:49 #73262 by vega5
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Stuart, in your opinion why wouldn't you add oral Winny?

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18 Aug 2011 15:03 #73275 by STUARTF
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Vega, the main reason that I always suggest injectable over oral is that by injecting you miss the first pass digestion through the liver. This obviously makes the injectable less toxic as it enters the bloodstream directly through the muscle.

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18 Aug 2011 16:04 - 18 Aug 2011 16:21 #73288 by vega5
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I hear you but honestly, Winny over 6 weeks? If the correct precaution is taken it won't even show up on a liver test.
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18 Aug 2011 16:20 #73292 by STUARTF
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You're right, Cycleman's coarse is quite mild so 6 weeks oral winny should be fine, but I would still add milk thistle or lagalon. I would always stck to injectable for the heavier cycles of 12 - 20 weeks.

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18 Aug 2011 17:47 #73304 by Cycleman
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Thanx guys!!!!

So at 50mg, I'll be good to go?

Last 5/6 week to pct?

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18 Aug 2011 17:49 #73306 by Cycleman
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Cycleman wrote: Thanx guys!!!!

So at 50mg, I'll be good to go?

Last 5/6 week to pct?


Also, do I split the dose through the day?

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18 Aug 2011 18:08 #73310 by vega5
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Jip, split it up throughout the day

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18 Aug 2011 18:25 #73312 by Cycleman
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Great!!!
Thanks for the help!!

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18 Aug 2011 19:16 - 18 Aug 2011 19:18 #73316 by ABC01
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I would also not make the 1st cycle too complicated. Run the test e at 600mg/week; do the winni at 50mg/day (worked out like vega said) and run your proviron throughout. I would not kick start the cycle because i dont think you should run 2 orals back to back especially if its your 1st cycle

You could even lower your test to 500mg/week. Its your 1st cycle so you will grow plenty. Hell, i grew plenty on my 1st cycle of 250mg test e/week
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