Ondier: First Test cyp cycle.

Howzit Bru,
Just keen to know what your experience was with your first test cyp cycle.
Could you please elaborate on the sides, time of test kick-in, dosage, water retention and if it was alot etc etc!!!!

If you have discussed this before please point me in the direction of the topic.

To Admin, was not sure if I posted it in the right forum section. Apologies in advance

Hi ontong not answering on behalf of ondier but also did the test cyp dbol cycle, takes about 4weeks for test to kick in. Sides were water retention, slight aggresion but nothing you shouldn't be able to control if you are generally chilled. I also experienced oily skin and some acne on back and shoulders and these are not usual problem areas for me. Elavated blood pressure. Awesome strength gains. Dbol kept me up at night struggled to sleep. Hope this helps you a bit. Are you thinking of this cycle? I think if my diet was as spot on as it is now I would have gained much better size than I did.

David.biohazard, thankx for sharing your experience. You see the type of work I do requires me to be under 100 kg's. My previous cycles have almost always been with short esters and for 6-8 weeks, ultimately just trying to get a general idea of everyones experience with long esters. I kinda know--- by doing research---- that bloat weight depends a lot on your diet I.e. The stricter your diet the the less likely would of water retention. I have never done a cycle longer than 8 weeks and never used any of the long test esters----cyp/eth.

I have test cyp on hand, but just to afraid to gain that water weight as I know for a fact that every one responds differently to test even with the use of a AI

I'm into week 6 of a testocyp cycle. Willpost stats shortly. Happy with results considering and not a dj diet yet but will make contact soo cos I'm picking up a little fat also

howzit fiekie112,
I take it that you are doing your cycle for pure mass gain. Is this your first cycle? and are you using only the test cyp.

Hey Ontong. No this is my 2nd cycle with cypionate. Frontloading it with dbols and eating a lot clean carbs but also using Evox 5xl and whey isolate at nyt. I missed a week training so this week I'm expecting to peak. Expecting the good gains from here on.

Ontong wrote: Howzit Bru,
Just keen to know what your experience was with your first test cyp cycle.
Could you please elaborate on the sides, time of test kick-in, dosage, water retention and if it was alot etc etc!!!!

Howzit brother- sorry for the late reply- my email server was down over the weekend

I was very impressed with my cycle. Only used LP and PGW. I lost about 7kg of bf during my cycle. I have added some good quality lean mass as well with very nice definition.

To be honest I just went in to the cycle to test my body's reaction to AAS. I was not planning on gaining weight. I wanted to do a cutting cycle but everyone said I must do a beginners cycle first and then move on to the harsher compounds. My bf was still around 23% on the time I have started the cycle. But was thinking to myself if I do add lean mass my metabolism will definitely speed up and that will bring my bf down. And I was right.

Like DB said- had some water retention but dropped most of it when I stopped the DBol.

I didn't struggle with night sweats or sleeping. My skin were definitely oily and had to get a facial scrub from Nivea to control oily forehead. Had a bit of acne but the scrub kept it under control.

Main thing here is where I'm coming from so I'm sure it will differ from person to person. I'm 34 years old, so knew my test levels were down, had sleep apnea for about 10 years without knowing it. So struggled to go in to REM sleep which obviously brought down my test levels as well.

Now my health is much better. Especially after the cycle. I've planned a 10 weeks only cycle but extended the test for another 5 weeks. I have my own business so my stress levels used to be very high.

I did not get agro or irritated at all when I was on cycle- actually calmed me down and felt much more in control.

I lost allot of stomach fat on my cycle. I couldn't train to my full potential, as I hurt my left bicep and had bursitis in both my shoulders which required rest. But felt so good when I was on cycle I couldn't drop the test. So I went hard on legs. And then by week 10 I went in for the anterior crucial ligaments on my right knee (but this was also an old injury, didn't happen on cycle) but at least I could build the power in my legs which I'm sure did allot for the op. After week 11 I started upper body again- but still could not go heavy so did more reps, and think that is one of the reasons I didn't bulk much but added some good quality lean mass.

Diet was not spot on but also not too bad.

Think you remember my liquor posts. My mouth was big on why and how I social with a couple of beers etc....before cycle

That changed completely while I was on cycle. I didn't feel too good, a babbie of another kind, so went very laid back on the dop. It was better after I dropped the dbol but my lus was geblus

What I've realized is everyone has got his poison. Mine was dop. Some of the members on here struggles to quit smoking but they are healthy as hell.

Some's poison is their gear.

I have to find a new poison now......

In my opinion it is a very mild cycle and would definitely recommend it for anyone who wants to start out with minimum sides.

Overall sense of well being and power stood out the most.

Thanks

EDIT: Oh yes and then I did some Provi en Winny as well

Thanx for your response, that was a awesome write-up and I appreciate you openness and honesty

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something a few members can learn from

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1. Was you test dosage high/low
2. At what stage did u add the winny and proviron.

Promise, this is the last of my questions

Ontong wrote: Thanx for your response, that was a awesome write-up and I appreciate you openness and honesty

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something a few members can learn from

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1. Was you test dosage high/low
2. At what stage did u add the winny and proviron.

Promise, this is the last of my questions

No problem brother

I started of with 250mg every 4th day. Then after some reading tried 500mg just once a week, felt no difference or negative effect so kept it to that.

My third vial and the extended 5 weeks I moved up to 750mg a week. And the boost was once again magnificent.

I started the winny (30mg ED) and Provi (60mg ED) straight after the end of my 10th week, with the idea to run them both for that 36 or so days up to PCT. But then on week 11 I decided to extend my Cyp. So what I did was not complete dropped the winny and Provi, I took 40mg of Provi and at first 20mg of Winny, but then lowered it to 10mg ED. Maybe I wasted it, but I experimented and tried to come in touch with my inner gearbox

And that worked out good for me