New cycle after 18month rest

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07 Dec 2011 09:37 #85032 by Rippedbig
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Hey everyone. I was one of the first to join this forum when it first started. I've been away for a while now I'm back and need a little advice.
Firstly some background stuff. I was training for 4 years, was competition ready 18 months ago but because of my gear use my skin got very bad and I couldn't enter the show. I was very despondent. I went on 4 months of 90mg accutane and I had marvelous results apart from the few scares left I haven't had a zit for a year.
The accutane made my joints so sore specifically my elbows, I couldn't lift a weight above my head without terrible pain. I went off training to recover and then struggled to find the motivation to return.
I recently joined a new gym and I am going full steam ahead.
4 weeks ago I started with a very light cycle. Mainly to see how my skin reacts and to tighten up and lose a bit of my belly fat. I know how to train hard and heavy and I am almost back to my previous strength. I am also well in tune with my body and I know what and when to eat and what foods my body requires to grow/ build lean muscle.
My current cycle is
1-10 week
300mg test p/w
200mg bold p/w
I've finished 60 tabs of mega-anadrol at 2 p/d

Clomid for pct. HCG not good for my skin

Don't laugh at my fag cycle. Like I said I need to see if my skin breaks out again. So far I have only got a few white heads on the outside of my shoulders. Nothing bad at all.

I want to extent the cycle by 5 weeks or so to maximize the fat burning and lean muscle building I am after.
I was going to go with
week 11-15
100mg test prop eod
winny/anavar ?????

The question marks are by biggest question.
I'm also currently using a bit of eca but will probably get some yohimbe or clen.

Quick stats
32 years
male
1,84m
94kg
18%bf mainly the bit around by waist.
Want to get to around 14% but maintain build a bit of lean muscle.

Some good advice will be appreciated.

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07 Dec 2011 12:10 #85054 by yster
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imo i think you were to eager to start with a cycle that low... if you were contest ready you should know what a good diet should look like.im sure you could have dropped your bf down to 12-14% with a good diet and some cardio.as for the acne,i dont think running a "mild" cycle like that would greatly reduce your acne problem. i think it would be best to finish your cycle at 10 weeks,run a proper pct and then with a diet get your bf down before you start your next cycle.

can you also not use nolvadex or aromasin? dont think clomid alone is best for pct.

well that was just my thought.

Obsessed is just a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated.

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07 Dec 2011 14:50 #85066 by Rippedbig
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Yes maybe I was a bit eager but going back to gym and realizing how much strength I had lost was one of the main reasons why I went for a cycle so quickly. In the past being slightly anabolic has always helped me to lose FAT. Even during bulking cycles my bodyfat % would drop with 750mg pw of test. I have never really liked the argument that you must be below xy bf% to go on a cycle. Yes maybe being obese would cause issues. I am far from that, the fat I have is mainly around my waist. I still have veins and cuts on my shoulders/arms.

I did not go for a low cycle to prevent acne. The accutane should have done that. I am testing how my skin will react to the extra androgens. If I can complete this cycle with little skin problems then I will load my next cycle.

I have no problem with Nolvadex. I see that idea's on PCT have changed so much over the last 2 years. 2 years ago the guys on here were saying pct must start 7 days after your last shot of testen now it is like 32days. I see aromasin being pushed a lot now as well. I need to research that a bit as well. This is a weak cycle I think the Clomid alone will be fine.

My main question is Var or Winny? I am thinking Var because of the better fat burning and the fact that I am not lean enough for the Winny to really show that much.

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07 Dec 2011 15:40 #85069 by Empire
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winstrol and proviron might still give u issues with skin,but with the amount of accutane u have taken i dont think u will ever break out as bad as u did bud... you will need to run this for 6 weeks after your last injection of equi as u have to wait for the esters to clear before pct. clomid will not be sufficient as pct so u will have to get some kessar and some ovidrel, i have never had a break out from hcg or ovidrel maybe i am just lucky

use 50-60mg of anavar and 50mg proviron daily for 6 weeks following your last shot of equi,300-400mg of test prop a week is sweet.then do a pct of clomid for 7 days,followed by kessar and ovidrel.

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07 Dec 2011 16:02 - 07 Dec 2011 16:03 #85072 by Rippedbig
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Thanks DJ. What happened to the easye part of your username?

Just to think I threw away 5 vials of 5000iu pregnyl some months ago. :(

I kind of made my mind up on using the var.
I've never used proviron. What is it for?

Is LP gear any good?

So I start the clomid the next day after the last shot of prop or wait a few days. Then after the 7 days of clomid start with 30 days kessar. I'm going to leave the ovidrel this time round.

What do you think of CYT3 as a fat burner (10mg Yohimbine, 40mcg Clenbuterol, 20mcg Liothyrnine Sodium T3) from Nomad?
How should I cycle it? And how many to take considering that dose is per tab.
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07 Dec 2011 16:41 #85076 by Empire
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Bud,don't stuff around with pct,rather just use the ovidrel,small doses every other day.u will need to wait 2 weeks after your prop shots to do pct. Nomad is shit. LP is very good. Don't waste your money with nomad gear bud. Pgw lp oraltec,oc labs all the way.don't bother with nomad.

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