GAINS STOPPED!

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17 Dec 2011 18:42 #85713 by dYna-BULL
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Hi guys I'm on 10 week cycle of supertest320 PGW...2ml p/w also did frontload with dbol 50mg ED but stopped the dbol due to gyno probs. I got letrozole and started with that. I gained 7kgs in 6 weeks then gains stopped..I'm at week 8 now and started the letro week 7..no more gains? What could the reason for this be? Can I take anadrol for 25 days before pct to gain more and go off with a bang?
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17 Dec 2011 18:53 #85714 by VonD
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Well 7kg is not bad considering your cycle you are running even more when you think you stopped the dbol.how is your diet looking??you stopped the dbol because of gyno now you want to use anadrol not the smartest thing to do my man.just finish out your cycle as planned even if you used anadrol you will only gain water mostly.
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17 Dec 2011 18:54 #85715 by Empire
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How much letro are u using?have u increased your calories yet?
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17 Dec 2011 18:59 #85716 by dYna-BULL
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Thanx bro! But see I'm on letro and will stop letro only after pct?
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17 Dec 2011 19:00 #85717 by Empire
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Never use letro during pct.... Use aromasin.... How much letro re u using?
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17 Dec 2011 19:04 #85718 by dYna-BULL
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Why not letro during pct? I used .5mg ; 1mg ; 1.5mg ; 2mg ; 2.5mg for 7 days ; 2mg ; 1.5mg ; 1mg ; .5mg ; .25mg e4d....please advise if this approach is wrong I am at the 9th day on letro and the gyno is already significantly reduced.
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17 Dec 2011 19:09 #85720 by Adder
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Technically speaking could one frontload with dbol, and end with anadrol?
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17 Dec 2011 19:10 #85721 by jakes
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VonD wrote: Well 7kg is not bad considering your cycle you are running even more when you think you stopped the dbol.how is your diet looking??you stopped the dbol because of gyno now you want to use anadrol not the smartest thing to do my man.just finish out your cycle as planned even if you used anadrol you will only gain water mostly.


Only 7kgs on 640mg test for a first cycle is not good...

Up your calories. I think your diet is at fault. For your sake I hope the 7kg you gained is muscle and not water.
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17 Dec 2011 19:12 #85722 by jakes
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Adder wrote: Technically speaking could one frontload with dbol, and end with anadrol?


Yes. If one is doing a 12week cycle for example you can take dbol the first 4weeks and anadrol the last 4 weeks to try and get as much out of the cycle as possible.
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17 Dec 2011 19:13 #85723 by dYna-BULL
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I don't think its water as my bodyfat has dropped 2% and I am more vascular and hard...I started my cals this monday will post results again later
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17 Dec 2011 19:18 #85725 by jakes
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Bud, if you dropped bf doesn't that tell you something? Ai... EAT MORE
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17 Dec 2011 22:19 #85731 by Empire
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rather use the least amound neededm so 0.25mg every 2nd day should be enough.
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17 Dec 2011 22:22 #85732 by dYna-BULL
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So should I stop they dosage I take right now?
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17 Dec 2011 22:43 #85734 by 00pump
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That is a useless pyramid scheme to combat gyno, and I still personally do not get any further estrogen suppression over 1mg of letro a day.. 2.5mg is too much. What type of gyno do you have, puffy nipples or/and around the nipple area is swollen.

"Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right"--Henry Ford
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17 Dec 2011 22:57 #85736 by Halfhuman08
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Imo I would stop this cycle seeing that u only have 2 weeks left. Do a proper pct ,plan a new cycle and diet and start over. 7kg gain for a 1st cycle is not that bad maybe u have a limited budget or source we don't know.
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18 Dec 2011 08:50 #85738 by Empire
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Adder wrote: Technically speaking could one frontload with dbol, and end with anadrol?


Anything short ester can be used to end a cycle bud! I find it better to use shorter esters and dht substances such as winny anavar and proviron to he u dry out before pct starts but there is nothing stopping u using anadrol in that time
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18 Dec 2011 08:53 #85739 by Empire
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dYna-BULL wrote: Why not letro during pct? I used .5mg ; 1mg ; 1.5mg ; 2mg ; 2.5mg for 7 days ; 2mg ; 1.5mg ; 1mg ; .5mg ; .25mg e4d....please advise if this approach is wrong I am at the 9th day on letro and the gyno is already significantly reduced.


Read the aromasin write up and it explains why u don't use aromasin during pct.."
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23 Dec 2011 20:24 #86199 by dYna-BULL
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Hi guys just some latest results...still on letro..gyno was killed in 2 weeks...I'm now using 0.3mg e4d...so I took your advice and upped my cals by a shitload! I smoke weed so eating is no problem at all! I'm 10kgs up and people are noticing... got a week left on the test? Could you still gain some weight in this last week
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23 Dec 2011 20:31 #86200 by jakes
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I don't think anyone on this forum will support you smoking weed so keep that to yourself. If your diet is correct you should still be gaining. Its possibly to add more than 10 in your first...
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23 Dec 2011 22:56 #86206 by Empire
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Smoking weed is such a waste.
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23 Dec 2011 23:16 #86207 by dYna-BULL
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Why are you guys so against it?
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24 Dec 2011 06:56 #86214 by VonD
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you really have the wrong idea on how to do things right...
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25 Dec 2011 11:09 #86237 by Wayne
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My opinion, if you smoke weed once in a blue moon, it makes you eat a truck load, but if you smoke all the time, then you wont eat cos you addicted to the weed and need the weed to feel "normal" not high or eat more! How many weed addicts do you know? I know quite a few, they gotta smoke everyday and they are skinny as fuck! Weed becomes your food...So long term, you just messing yourself up!
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25 Dec 2011 11:19 #86238 by Empire
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It's a narcotic...that's why.
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25 Dec 2011 11:30 #86239 by dYna-BULL
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You can't get addicted to weed. Period. Its like cigarettes...you can crave it but you won't get a fucking fit if you don't get any...I smoke it all the time and I'm hungry all the time...I stopped for 6months before started smoking again because my job tested me. Its really not all bad. Man made booze, God made weed, who do you trust? If smoking weed is wronf then so is eating vegetables. Weed is after all just another plant.
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