Doing the same course??

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21 Dec 2011 12:47 #85955 by PoisonedPulse
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well firstly i would just like to say greetings to every1 on here as this is my first post!! i have been following the forum for the past week or so now and am very impressed with the advice given and help offered by all the members, i hope i can be helped just as much in the future, anyway onto the question,

i was reading through the sample cycles and the "equi powerhouse" is one i am addressing, my last course was basically a replica of this and i must say i am extremely impressed with the gains, my course differed slightly though and was as follows:

3x PGW super test 320
3x PGW equi 350
1x Test prop
120x proviron

pct was:
hcg
clomid
nolvadex

i ran it for 15 weeks (2ml of each a week, sundays and wednesday nyts was pinned)
though out the cycle i ran proviron just 1 tab a day,
after the 15th week i used the test prop 100mgEOD (roughly 2 weeks)
followed by 5000iu of hcg, waited 2 weeks before starting the clomid followed by the nolvadex..

i am currently 11weeks off course and very happy with my gains kept, i am currently 22,92kg's,9%bf on caliper,i gained around 3kgs of lean muscle. now for the question (sorry this is taking so long)

could i use the "equi powerhouse" and still expect gains as it was very similar to my previous course with anavar and another test prop being added now? with more ai's and pct's being used, (are they all necessary as i dont get any signs of gyno or breakouts) this will be my 4th course and looking to run it in another 6-8 weeks time in feb 2012. any advice would be very helpful.. another thing, as im looking to get hard and vascular, do you think adding pgw tren enanthate 150mg in, from week 5 to 15, at 1ml a week would aid in seeking my results, or too much for my system as it is already a rather potent course?? goals post cycle im looking to be about 95kgs with under 10% bf, i eat 5-6 solid meals a day +- 25-40g protein per meal, and hav 2 shakes (whey, and extreme mass) as i naturally got a fast metabolism and dnt get fat easily so i get away with the high calories... please ANY help weather good or bad will be appreciated!! thank you

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21 Dec 2011 12:54 #85956 by jakes
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Yes.

Bud 3kg gain off that cycle isn't good, your diet is probably to blame. I had fantastic results with it

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21 Dec 2011 13:04 #85958 by PoisonedPulse
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yes i will agree the first half of the course my diet was all over the place, but it came right towards the end, i was pleased as even with the poor diet i walked out leaner and heavier without any loss in strength gained, thats why im very interested to try it again but this time more prepared diet wise, what u think?

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21 Dec 2011 13:12 - 21 Dec 2011 13:16 #85959 by jakes
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When I used it the first time I used 750mg test cyp with it I think. Second time I used 900mg test e with it, both times gains were fantastic. If you take your weight into consideration you don't need more than 750mg test. I say run exactly the same cycle again. If you are really looking to add something to it deca stacks extremely well with equi. Or between 300 and 450mg npp (short version of deca). It all depends on how close to your natural "limit" you are. If you are under around 1.77m tall, I'd add the deca or npp. If over 1.77 I'd do the exact same course than before
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21 Dec 2011 13:18 #85960 by PoisonedPulse
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thanks for the advice bud! well im 183cm, but will try the same course again, but everything on the sample list and try see how it runs, im really keen on trying the tren too, u think i should leave it for my next course, or throw it into the mix now at a low dosage??

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21 Dec 2011 13:29 #85965 by jakes
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Pleasure. Bud tren is great... I really want to use the stuff. I don't think there is a better compound out there. I want to do a cutting cycle with the tren ace ester to get used to it and then use a good dose of tren enanthant with equi and testosterone...

Tren will defiantly give you good gains, but rather add deca. Tren comes with its own list of rules as you'll need to run thyroid hormone with it and stillnox or something similar. Hold off on that one.

We are about the same length haha, do the exact same course but only bump up the testosterone dosage to 3mls. You can still add a lot of weight to your frame I promise you, keep the trenbolan up your sleeve for somewhere in the future

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21 Dec 2011 14:11 #85983 by PoisonedPulse
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perfect! sounds good bru, my eATING is on track now so should get alot better gains next cycle, ill make a post when i start about my prep for it! thanx for the posts, much appreciated.. ill hold off on the tren but dam itching to use it haha.

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21 Dec 2011 14:21 #85988 by jakes
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Same here bud.

Gookluck with your cycle, looking forward to see your progress.

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22 Dec 2011 08:33 #86053 by PoisonedPulse
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Howzit jakes, I jus wanted to ask, I'm busy working out finances ect for the course, is there really such a need for an aggressive pct like this? If I'm not mistaken its more aimed at ppl who suffer from gyno? And I don't or never hav had any symptoms of it, what would u recommend I pct with? Hcg, letro and maybe clomid/kessar ?? :)

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22 Dec 2011 08:45 #86054 by jakes
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Bud the pct isn't meant to reverse gyno but rather get your body to produce its own natural testosterone again after it was shut down because of the brain sending a message to the testicles that there is enough testosterone and they should stop producing it. The only difference between doctari's pct (clomid, oviderl, nolva and aromasin)and pct number 2 (hcg, clomid and nolva) is that synthetic hcg (ovidrel) is used with the addition of aromasin. The aromasin is the only thing that is a bit pricey.

What AI you use during cycle is really up to you, letrozole is much cheaper that adex for example and its stronger but with it comes joint and libido issues... That influence strength plus I feel that one still needs a bit of estrogen to maintain a positive hormonal balance so I would run adex during the cycle... Its a bit pricey, but worth it. If you want to cut costs a little don't use the prop and anavar... Just run 700mg equi with 600-900mg test for 14 weeks and run the test to the 16week mark.

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26 Dec 2011 14:31 #86285 by Benboy
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sorry for chipping in guys but why does your length play a role in what compound to use?

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26 Dec 2011 16:15 #86286 by jakes
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No role? We were discussing the time certain compounds should be cycled for... Compounds like equipoise only really start working on the 6week mark...

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